Air carrier Y uncoord unauthorized penetration of airspace had TCASII RA with air carrier X. Operati...

Attributes
ACN	245628
Time
Date	199307
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : orl
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : mco
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : departure
Qualification	controller : radar
Experience	controller military : 10 controller radar : 5
ASRS Report	245628
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 18000 vertical : 100
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Deviation

Narrative:

I was working the departure east position at mco. Air carrier X was on a 330 degree heading level at 9000 ft. The aircraft was instructed to join V267 from that heading. I notice air carrier Y on an intercept heading, descending out of 10000 ft. I heard the controller working the final M position issue traffic and request air carrier Y to maintain 'visual separation.' I took no action for fear of making opposite instructions. I did not think the aircraft came less than minimum separation (1000 ft and 3 mi). The controller working final M reported the situation because air carrier Y had TCASII and the controller thought the air carrier Y pilot would report it. The air carrier Y aircraft was delivered to the final M position by the arrival left position at an altitude that would put air carrier Y in the departure east airspace without a pointout. I did not observe the conflict until the collision alarm sounded.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR Y UNCOORD UNAUTH PENETRATION OF AIRSPACE HAD TCASII RA WITH ACR X. OPDEV.

Narrative: I WAS WORKING THE DEP E POS AT MCO. ACR X WAS ON A 330 DEG HDG LEVEL AT 9000 FT. THE ACFT WAS INSTRUCTED TO JOIN V267 FROM THAT HDG. I NOTICE ACR Y ON AN INTERCEPT HDG, DSNDING OUT OF 10000 FT. I HEARD THE CTLR WORKING THE FINAL M POS ISSUE TFC AND REQUEST ACR Y TO MAINTAIN 'VISUAL SEPARATION.' I TOOK NO ACTION FOR FEAR OF MAKING OPPOSITE INSTRUCTIONS. I DID NOT THINK THE ACFT CAME LESS THAN MINIMUM SEPARATION (1000 FT AND 3 MI). THE CTLR WORKING FINAL M RPTED THE SIT BECAUSE ACR Y HAD TCASII AND THE CTLR THOUGHT THE ACR Y PLT WOULD RPT IT. THE ACR Y ACFT WAS DELIVERED TO THE FINAL M POS BY THE ARR L POS AT AN ALT THAT WOULD PUT ACR Y IN THE DEP E AIRSPACE WITHOUT A POINTOUT. I DID NOT OBSERVE THE CONFLICT UNTIL THE COLLISION ALARM SOUNDED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier Y uncoord unauthorized penetration of airspace had TCASII RA with air carrier X. Operational deviation.