<< >> NASA ASRS Report 380694, September 1997

Cabin attendant questioned the legality of scheduling recurrent training on the seventh day of duty without having 24 hours off duty. Company said that cabin attendant training is not included in company duty time for computing rest periods.

Attributes
ACN	380694
Time
Date	199709
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zzz
State Reference	US
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight attendant : on duty
Qualification	other other : other
ASRS Report	380694
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Scheduled for FAA mandated recurrent training on sep/xa/97. If recurrent training is counted as a part of or applies to the 24 in 7 rule then I worked 7 consecutive days without a 24 hour break. Originally, I was scheduled to work 4 days of reserve on sep/a,B,C,D/97, I then picked up an additional 2 day trip on sep/east,F/97 for a total of 6 days of work. Moments later recurrent training was assigned to me for a total of 7 days. Although I addressed this issue with our scheduling department, I was told recurrent training does not count towards a part of the 24 in 7 rule. I'm still uncertain about this far.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CABIN ATTENDANT QUESTIONED THE LEGALITY OF SCHEDULING RECURRENT TRAINING ON THE SEVENTH DAY OF DUTY WITHOUT HAVING 24 HRS OFF DUTY. COMPANY SAID THAT CABIN ATTENDANT TRAINING IS NOT INCLUDED IN COMPANY DUTY TIME FOR COMPUTING REST PERIODS.

Narrative: SCHEDULED FOR FAA MANDATED RECURRENT TRAINING ON SEP/XA/97. IF RECURRENT TRAINING IS COUNTED AS A PART OF OR APPLIES TO THE 24 IN 7 RULE THEN I WORKED 7 CONSECUTIVE DAYS WITHOUT A 24 HR BREAK. ORIGINALLY, I WAS SCHEDULED TO WORK 4 DAYS OF RESERVE ON SEP/A,B,C,D/97, I THEN PICKED UP AN ADDITIONAL 2 DAY TRIP ON SEP/E,F/97 FOR A TOTAL OF 6 DAYS OF WORK. MOMENTS LATER RECURRENT TRAINING WAS ASSIGNED TO ME FOR A TOTAL OF 7 DAYS. ALTHOUGH I ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE WITH OUR SCHEDULING DEPT, I WAS TOLD RECURRENT TRAINING DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS A PART OF THE 24 IN 7 RULE. I'M STILL UNCERTAIN ABOUT THIS FAR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.