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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 482955 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200008 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ril.airport |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 350 agl bound upper : 800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | PA-31 Navajo Chieftan/Mojave/Navajo T1020 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| ASRS Report | 482955 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 450 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was in the traffic pattern at (ril) garfield city airport with a student. There were about 5 aircraft in the pattern. 3 of us were using the preferred right traffic for runway 26. I was about to turn downwind to base, the atx #1 aircraft passed by me, announced he was a left downwind for runway 8. 3 aircraft requested he land on runway 26. He said he would continued on runway 8. He came in extremely low and landed on runway 8 as I was on short final for runway 26. I had to go around in order to not land into the other aircraft. When I queried why he would not land with the other traffic, he said he was heavy, and wanted to land uphill in order to save his brakes. A few mins later, another aircraft from the same company did the same pattern. I believe the actions of this pilot were dangerous and could result in a serious accident if it is not curtailed. Pilot who works at atx told me that this pilot uses this landing technique on a daily basis. I suggest you stop this pilot's current behavior before he causes an accident. Supplemental information from acn 482962: this situation has been going on for quite some time. Previously, I missed atx by less than 100 ft on downwind. I spoke to him once and he appears arrogant when confronted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN A CARGO ATX PIPER NAVAJO, PA31, PASSING UNDERNEATH A CESSNA 172 TURNING BASE LEG FOR THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SAME RWY AT AN UNCTLED ARPT.
Narrative: I WAS IN THE TFC PATTERN AT (RIL) GARFIELD CITY ARPT WITH A STUDENT. THERE WERE ABOUT 5 ACFT IN THE PATTERN. 3 OF US WERE USING THE PREFERRED R TFC FOR RWY 26. I WAS ABOUT TO TURN DOWNWIND TO BASE, THE ATX #1 ACFT PASSED BY ME, ANNOUNCED HE WAS A L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 8. 3 ACFT REQUESTED HE LAND ON RWY 26. HE SAID HE WOULD CONTINUED ON RWY 8. HE CAME IN EXTREMELY LOW AND LANDED ON RWY 8 AS I WAS ON SHORT FINAL FOR RWY 26. I HAD TO GO AROUND IN ORDER TO NOT LAND INTO THE OTHER ACFT. WHEN I QUERIED WHY HE WOULD NOT LAND WITH THE OTHER TFC, HE SAID HE WAS HVY, AND WANTED TO LAND UPHILL IN ORDER TO SAVE HIS BRAKES. A FEW MINS LATER, ANOTHER ACFT FROM THE SAME COMPANY DID THE SAME PATTERN. I BELIEVE THE ACTIONS OF THIS PLT WERE DANGEROUS AND COULD RESULT IN A SERIOUS ACCIDENT IF IT IS NOT CURTAILED. PLT WHO WORKS AT ATX TOLD ME THAT THIS PLT USES THIS LNDG TECHNIQUE ON A DAILY BASIS. I SUGGEST YOU STOP THIS PLT'S CURRENT BEHAVIOR BEFORE HE CAUSES AN ACCIDENT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 482962: THIS SIT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. PREVIOUSLY, I MISSED ATX BY LESS THAN 100 FT ON DOWNWIND. I SPOKE TO HIM ONCE AND HE APPEARS ARROGANT WHEN CONFRONTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.