Cpr crew unable to make crossing restr over cfb VOR.

Attributes
ACN	455280
Time
Date	199911
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 28000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zny.artcc
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other other
Flight Phase	descent : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 600
ASRS Report	455280
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 1800
ASRS Report	455448
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued alert none taken : insufficient time
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Cruising at FL280, given clearance to cross cfb at FL240. Controller asked us at 5 mi before cfb if we would make it down in time. We started an immediate descent, but started down too late to make the crossing restr. PF was operating radios as PNF was getting ATIS when clearance was issued. PF did not set crossing restr in FMS. This caused the event. In the future, all crossing restrs will be programmed into FMS as a backup to insure crossing restrs are met.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CPR CREW UNABLE TO MAKE XING RESTR OVER CFB VOR.

Narrative: CRUISING AT FL280, GIVEN CLRNC TO CROSS CFB AT FL240. CTLR ASKED US AT 5 MI BEFORE CFB IF WE WOULD MAKE IT DOWN IN TIME. WE STARTED AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT, BUT STARTED DOWN TOO LATE TO MAKE THE XING RESTR. PF WAS OPERATING RADIOS AS PNF WAS GETTING ATIS WHEN CLRNC WAS ISSUED. PF DID NOT SET XING RESTR IN FMS. THIS CAUSED THE EVENT. IN THE FUTURE, ALL XING RESTRS WILL BE PROGRAMMED INTO FMS AS A BACKUP TO INSURE XING RESTRS ARE MET.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.