Speed deviation in violation of FARS.

Attributes
ACN	318489
Time
Date	199510
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : tul
State Reference	OK
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 10000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : tul tower : tul
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 1500
ASRS Report	318489
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	318887
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Exceeded 250 KTS below 10000 ft. Exceeded 20 KTS in airport control zone. Landed at airspeed well above comfort factor but well within aircraft limitations. Contributing factors: late night and long day. CRM factors: captain allowed himself to push aircraft speed too high in order to expedite landing. Alienated crew by jeopardizing us with possible far violation. First officer, not forceful enough verbally to cause captain to slow aircraft, and cause captain to execute go around in order to re-establish comfort factor during approach and landing. First officer notified union's professional standards committee in order to document problem for future and past judgement lapses by this crew. Supplemental information from acn 318887: during descent to land, airspeed exceeded 250 KTS to 280 KTS below 10000 ft. Returned to below 250 KTS approximately 7000 ft. Due to higher than reported winds, also exceeded 200 KTS within airport traffic control area by 20 KTS. Touchdown uneventful at 160 KTS.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SPD DEV IN VIOLATION OF FARS.

Narrative: EXCEEDED 250 KTS BELOW 10000 FT. EXCEEDED 20 KTS IN ARPT CTL ZONE. LANDED AT AIRSPD WELL ABOVE COMFORT FACTOR BUT WELL WITHIN ACFT LIMITATIONS. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: LATE NIGHT AND LONG DAY. CRM FACTORS: CAPT ALLOWED HIMSELF TO PUSH ACFT SPD TOO HIGH IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE LNDG. ALIENATED CREW BY JEOPARDIZING US WITH POSSIBLE FAR VIOLATION. FO, NOT FORCEFUL ENOUGH VERBALLY TO CAUSE CAPT TO SLOW ACFT, AND CAUSE CAPT TO EXECUTE GAR IN ORDER TO RE-ESTABLISH COMFORT FACTOR DURING APCH AND LNDG. FO NOTIFIED UNION'S PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO DOCUMENT PROB FOR FUTURE AND PAST JUDGEMENT LAPSES BY THIS CREW. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 318887: DURING DSCNT TO LAND, AIRSPD EXCEEDED 250 KTS TO 280 KTS BELOW 10000 FT. RETURNED TO BELOW 250 KTS APPROX 7000 FT. DUE TO HIGHER THAN RPTED WINDS, ALSO EXCEEDED 200 KTS WITHIN ARPT TFC CTL AREA BY 20 KTS. TOUCHDOWN UNEVENTFUL AT 160 KTS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.