Speed deviation. Flight crew fatigue.

Attributes
ACN	295123
Time
Date	199501
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B747-C/F
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : sid enroute airway : lax
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 48 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	295123
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	295264
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were called at XA35 for a freighter flight that had left lax earlier for sfo and had returned because sfo was below minimums due to fog. We were told that our departure was planned for XC30. Someone in our planning department really dropped the ball since the WX did not improve enough at sfo until XG30. We blocked out at XH52. We were so tired from the early morning wake up, and waiting for our departure that we missed some radio calls. Forgot about a 250 KT speed restr 'until further advise' by lax departure control, labored at entering a hold at bsr VOR, and came close to busting some altitudes. We have tried for many yrs to get management to understand the effects the lack of proper rest has on flight safety. I have no solutions to offer since deaf ears hear nothing.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SPD DEV. FLC FATIGUE.

Narrative: WE WERE CALLED AT XA35 FOR A FREIGHTER FLT THAT HAD LEFT LAX EARLIER FOR SFO AND HAD RETURNED BECAUSE SFO WAS BELOW MINIMUMS DUE TO FOG. WE WERE TOLD THAT OUR DEP WAS PLANNED FOR XC30. SOMEONE IN OUR PLANNING DEPT REALLY DROPPED THE BALL SINCE THE WX DID NOT IMPROVE ENOUGH AT SFO UNTIL XG30. WE BLOCKED OUT AT XH52. WE WERE SO TIRED FROM THE EARLY MORNING WAKE UP, AND WAITING FOR OUR DEP THAT WE MISSED SOME RADIO CALLS. FORGOT ABOUT A 250 KT SPD RESTR 'UNTIL FURTHER ADVISE' BY LAX DEP CTL, LABORED AT ENTERING A HOLD AT BSR VOR, AND CAME CLOSE TO BUSTING SOME ALTS. WE HAVE TRIED FOR MANY YRS TO GET MGMNT TO UNDERSTAND THE EFFECTS THE LACK OF PROPER REST HAS ON FLT SAFETY. I HAVE NO SOLUTIONS TO OFFER SINCE DEAF EARS HEAR NOTHING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.