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Air carrier X runway incursion had near midair collision less than standard separation from PA32 on takeoff. System error.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 300221 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199503 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : orf |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 300221 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical conflict : nmac incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 10 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Arc X called orf ground control for taxi. Ground said: 'taxi to runway 5' and we acknowledged. Approaching intersecting runway I looked left, stated 'clear left,' first officer looked right and stated 'clear right.' I looked back to the left once more and saw a piper saratoga about 200 ft away just rotating for takeoff! I immediately applied brakes and stopped about 15 ft from the runway edge while myself and first officer watched the saratoga pass from left to right, reaching a ht of about 10 ft when directly in front of us. Ground control said nothing until I restated our taxi clearance followed by the fact we were holding short of runway 32 due to traffic taking off in front of us. Ground replied 'hold your position,' followed a min later with further taxi clearance and an apology. Moral: be vigilant! Expect other traffic to be there until you really look and make sure otherwise. Don't get complacent because some traffic can be hard to see -- look twice! (That's what saved us!) also when taking off, turn on all lights possible, our conflict traffic didn't have a landing light on and might've helped. Remember that ATC is human too and may make a mistake once in a while!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X RWY INCURSION HAD NMAC LTSS FROM PA32 ON TKOF. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ARC X CALLED ORF GND CTL FOR TAXI. GND SAID: 'TAXI TO RWY 5' AND WE ACKNOWLEDGED. APCHING INTERSECTING RWY I LOOKED L, STATED 'CLR L,' FO LOOKED R AND STATED 'CLR R.' I LOOKED BACK TO THE L ONCE MORE AND SAW A PIPER SARATOGA ABOUT 200 FT AWAY JUST ROTATING FOR TKOF! I IMMEDIATELY APPLIED BRAKES AND STOPPED ABOUT 15 FT FROM THE RWY EDGE WHILE MYSELF AND FO WATCHED THE SARATOGA PASS FROM L TO R, REACHING A HT OF ABOUT 10 FT WHEN DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US. GND CTL SAID NOTHING UNTIL I RESTATED OUR TAXI CLRNC FOLLOWED BY THE FACT WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 32 DUE TO TFC TAKING OFF IN FRONT OF US. GND REPLIED 'HOLD YOUR POS,' FOLLOWED A MIN LATER WITH FURTHER TAXI CLRNC AND AN APOLOGY. MORAL: BE VIGILANT! EXPECT OTHER TFC TO BE THERE UNTIL YOU REALLY LOOK AND MAKE SURE OTHERWISE. DON'T GET COMPLACENT BECAUSE SOME TFC CAN BE HARD TO SEE -- LOOK TWICE! (THAT'S WHAT SAVED US!) ALSO WHEN TAKING OFF, TURN ON ALL LIGHTS POSSIBLE, OUR CONFLICT TFC DIDN'T HAVE A LNDG LIGHT ON AND MIGHT'VE HELPED. REMEMBER THAT ATC IS HUMAN TOO AND MAY MAKE A MISTAKE ONCE IN A WHILE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.