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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 297790 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199503 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rno |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7500 msl bound upper : 7500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : rno |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 11 flight time total : 20000 |
| ASRS Report | 297790 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was descending for landing at reno cannon international airport coming in from the southwest. I called reno approach control when approximately 5 mi south of verdi, nevada. I reported the ATIS and advised approach control I was VFR and landing reno. I recall a transponder code was assigned and the code was selected. Some XX20 seconds(?) later I called again for further instruction, no reply. 10 or so seconds later I called again. No reply. Short time later called again. This time approach came back and advised I was violating or about to violate their class C airspace because I hadn't been cleared into it. He never gave me a reason for not acknowledging my calls. At that time I requested a heading to fly and continued the approach to landing without further incident. I was asked by ground control to call approach on the phone which I did. I was advised of the requirements for entering class C airspace and I acknowledged. 1 of the problems with the particular area is you can't always get the ATIS and contact approach when at a low altitude until you come around the mountain in the vicinity of verdi intersection and by then you are either on the edge of or into the class C airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA POSSIBLE UNAUTH ENTRY INTO CLASS C AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I WAS DSNDING FOR LNDG AT RENO CANNON INTL ARPT COMING IN FROM THE SW. I CALLED RENO APCH CTL WHEN APPROX 5 MI S OF VERDI, NEVADA. I RPTED THE ATIS AND ADVISED APCH CTL I WAS VFR AND LNDG RENO. I RECALL A XPONDER CODE WAS ASSIGNED AND THE CODE WAS SELECTED. SOME XX20 SECONDS(?) LATER I CALLED AGAIN FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTION, NO REPLY. 10 OR SO SECONDS LATER I CALLED AGAIN. NO REPLY. SHORT TIME LATER CALLED AGAIN. THIS TIME APCH CAME BACK AND ADVISED I WAS VIOLATING OR ABOUT TO VIOLATE THEIR CLASS C AIRSPACE BECAUSE I HADN'T BEEN CLRED INTO IT. HE NEVER GAVE ME A REASON FOR NOT ACKNOWLEDGING MY CALLS. AT THAT TIME I REQUESTED A HDG TO FLY AND CONTINUED THE APCH TO LNDG WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. I WAS ASKED BY GND CTL TO CALL APCH ON THE PHONE WHICH I DID. I WAS ADVISED OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ENTERING CLASS C AIRSPACE AND I ACKNOWLEDGED. 1 OF THE PROBS WITH THE PARTICULAR AREA IS YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET THE ATIS AND CONTACT APCH WHEN AT A LOW ALT UNTIL YOU COME AROUND THE MOUNTAIN IN THE VICINITY OF VERDI INTXN AND BY THEN YOU ARE EITHER ON THE EDGE OF OR INTO THE CLASS C AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.