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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : san|
airport : myf
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 2000|
msl bound upper : 2000
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : san|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear|
|Flight Phase||climbout : intermediate altitude|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 30|
flight time total : 550
|Anomaly||non adherence : far|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
none taken : anomaly accepted
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
On previous flight same day, coast approach control asked me to maintain 2000' along coastal route due to air show going on at el toro. This possibly led to confusion reported. On departure from myf, planned to climb to 4500' northbound up coast, but leveled at 2000' to get permission from san diego department control (also miramar) to further climb (worried about air show). Was in contact with san diego departure and assigned a transponder code and told to wait 'for two minutes' as they were busy. When they called back and verified altitude, they said we were in their TCA and to call when on the ground. I called the supervisor and he and I discussed it. He said he would 'not write this up.' I may have strayed into the TCA but thought I was in radar and radio contact etc and was being controled. Am filling this NASA report in case the controllers involved have a change of heart and do file a report. Lesson learned, don't enter a TCA even if you have a squawk and are talking to them, don't assume you have clearance. Make them tell you that you are cleared into TCA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA SMA UNAUTH PENETRATION OF SAN TCA.
Narrative: ON PREVIOUS FLT SAME DAY, COAST APCH CTL ASKED ME TO MAINTAIN 2000' ALONG COASTAL ROUTE DUE TO AIR SHOW GOING ON AT EL TORO. THIS POSSIBLY LED TO CONFUSION REPORTED. ON DEP FROM MYF, PLANNED TO CLIMB TO 4500' NBOUND UP COAST, BUT LEVELED AT 2000' TO GET PERMISSION FROM SAN DIEGO DEPT CTL (ALSO MIRAMAR) TO FURTHER CLIMB (WORRIED ABOUT AIR SHOW). WAS IN CONTACT WITH SAN DIEGO DEP AND ASSIGNED A TRANSPONDER CODE AND TOLD TO WAIT 'FOR TWO MINUTES' AS THEY WERE BUSY. WHEN THEY CALLED BACK AND VERIFIED ALT, THEY SAID WE WERE IN THEIR TCA AND TO CALL WHEN ON THE GND. I CALLED THE SUPERVISOR AND HE AND I DISCUSSED IT. HE SAID HE WOULD 'NOT WRITE THIS UP.' I MAY HAVE STRAYED INTO THE TCA BUT THOUGHT I WAS IN RADAR AND RADIO CONTACT ETC AND WAS BEING CTLED. AM FILLING THIS NASA REPORT IN CASE THE CTLRS INVOLVED HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART AND DO FILE A REPORT. LESSON LEARNED, DON'T ENTER A TCA EVEN IF YOU HAVE A SQUAWK AND ARE TALKING TO THEM, DON'T ASSUME YOU HAVE CLRNC. MAKE THEM TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE CLRED INTO TCA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.