Flight crew forgot altitude restr.

Attributes
ACN	297578
Time
Date	199502
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cvg
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 16000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 3500
ASRS Report	297578
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were given a crossing restr at manes at 11000 ft MSL (pilot discretion). We were at 16000 ft MSL at the time. Center controller didn't ask if we had remembered our crossing restr. Being on duty 2 days in a row more than 12 hours. And 3RD day of a 3 day trip for more than 13 hours. Crew fatigue (tired) played a major role. We made the turn at manes intersection and realized we were still at 16000 ft MSL. We forgot the crossing and were starting down. I asked did we cause any conflicts. There was no answer from center except to contact cvg approach on 123.87, so we did and started down at 2000 FPM. To add to this, it may not be the controller's responsibility to make sure flight crew's make their altitude restrs, but when something like this happens giving the crew some feed back if there was a conflict or not would be a plus. Not to just leave the crew out of the loop.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC FORGOT ALT RESTR.

Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A XING RESTR AT MANES AT 11000 FT MSL (PLT DISCRETION). WE WERE AT 16000 FT MSL AT THE TIME. CTR CTLR DIDN'T ASK IF WE HAD REMEMBERED OUR XING RESTR. BEING ON DUTY 2 DAYS IN A ROW MORE THAN 12 HRS. AND 3RD DAY OF A 3 DAY TRIP FOR MORE THAN 13 HRS. CREW FATIGUE (TIRED) PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE. WE MADE THE TURN AT MANES INTXN AND REALIZED WE WERE STILL AT 16000 FT MSL. WE FORGOT THE XING AND WERE STARTING DOWN. I ASKED DID WE CAUSE ANY CONFLICTS. THERE WAS NO ANSWER FROM CTR EXCEPT TO CONTACT CVG APCH ON 123.87, SO WE DID AND STARTED DOWN AT 2000 FPM. TO ADD TO THIS, IT MAY NOT BE THE CTLR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE FLC'S MAKE THEIR ALT RESTRS, BUT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS GIVING THE CREW SOME FEED BACK IF THERE WAS A CONFLICT OR NOT WOULD BE A PLUS. NOT TO JUST LEAVE THE CREW OUT OF THE LOOP.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.