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|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : lax|
airport : smo
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 3500|
msl bound upper : 4500
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : sna|
tracon : lax
artcc : zny
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Function||instruction : instructor|
|Qualification||pilot : cfi|
pilot : atp
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 250|
flight time total : 1600
flight time type : 50
|Function||instruction : trainee|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : private
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
On november, 1988, at approximately xa:30 pm local time, I departed santa monica municipal airport (smo) on an instructional flight. The purpose of the flight was to get my student, who is a private pilot with multieng and instrument ratings, recurrent in multieng procedures by concentrating on practice instrument approaches. We departed santa monica VFR on a flight that was intended to cover instrument approaches at santa anna (sna), long beach (lgb) and torrance (toa) airports. We took off runway 21 after requesting and receiving clearance to perform a 'right 270' departure which is a standard route to gain the altitude necessary to fly thru the los angeles special flight rules area. We entered the corridor at bollona creek level at 3500' and squawking 1201 on our mode-C transponder. After crossing over imperial highway, we returned to squawking 1200 and remained at 3500'. The next portion of the flight consisted of contacting coast approach control and then performing ILS approaches at sna, lgb and toa. We made a full stop at toa and, after taxiing back, we made a standard right turn departure. We then reentered the la special flight rules area at 4500' over imperial highway and again squawking 1201. While in the corridor, we contacted santa monica tower and was told to over-fly the airport at 2000' and make full right traffic for runway 21. After crossing bollona creek, we squawked 1200 and started a descent into santa monica. Upon landing and contacting santa monica ground at approximately xb:00 pm local time, we were told that los angeles approach control wanted to speak with us. The controller then gave us a phone number to copy down. No reason is known nor was one given for their wanting to speak with us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POSSIBLE TCA VIOLATION.
Narrative: ON NOVEMBER, 1988, AT APPROXIMATELY XA:30 PM LOCAL TIME, I DEPARTED SANTA MONICA MUNICIPAL ARPT (SMO) ON AN INSTRUCTIONAL FLT. THE PURPOSE OF THE FLT WAS TO GET MY STUDENT, WHO IS A PRIVATE PLT WITH MULTIENG AND INSTRUMENT RATINGS, RECURRENT IN MULTIENG PROCEDURES BY CONCENTRATING ON PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES. WE DEPARTED SANTA MONICA VFR ON A FLT THAT WAS INTENDED TO COVER INSTRUMENT APPROACHES AT SANTA ANNA (SNA), LONG BEACH (LGB) AND TORRANCE (TOA) ARPTS. WE TOOK OFF RWY 21 AFTER REQUESTING AND RECEIVING CLRNC TO PERFORM A 'RIGHT 270' DEPARTURE WHICH IS A STANDARD ROUTE TO GAIN THE ALTITUDE NECESSARY TO FLY THRU THE LOS ANGELES SPECIAL FLT RULES AREA. WE ENTERED THE CORRIDOR AT BOLLONA CREEK LEVEL AT 3500' AND SQUAWKING 1201 ON OUR MODE-C TRANSPONDER. AFTER XING OVER IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, WE RETURNED TO SQUAWKING 1200 AND REMAINED AT 3500'. THE NEXT PORTION OF THE FLT CONSISTED OF CONTACTING COAST APPROACH CONTROL AND THEN PERFORMING ILS APPROACHES AT SNA, LGB AND TOA. WE MADE A FULL STOP AT TOA AND, AFTER TAXIING BACK, WE MADE A STANDARD RIGHT TURN DEPARTURE. WE THEN REENTERED THE LA SPECIAL FLT RULES AREA AT 4500' OVER IMPERIAL HWY AND AGAIN SQUAWKING 1201. WHILE IN THE CORRIDOR, WE CONTACTED SANTA MONICA TWR AND WAS TOLD TO OVER-FLY THE ARPT AT 2000' AND MAKE FULL RIGHT TFC FOR RWY 21. AFTER XING BOLLONA CREEK, WE SQUAWKED 1200 AND STARTED A DESCENT INTO SANTA MONICA. UPON LANDING AND CONTACTING SANTA MONICA GND AT APPROXIMATELY XB:00 PM LOCAL TIME, WE WERE TOLD THAT LOS ANGELES APPROACH CONTROL WANTED TO SPEAK WITH US. THE CTLR THEN GAVE US A PHONE NUMBER TO COPY DOWN. NO REASON IS KNOWN NOR WAS ONE GIVEN FOR THEIR WANTING TO SPEAK WITH US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.