VFR aircraft encountered while flying SID, no traffic advisory.

Attributes
ACN	93892
Time
Date	198809
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sli airport : ont
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 11700 msl bound upper : 11700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zhu
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : sid enroute airway : v64
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Small Transport
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 1300
ASRS Report	93892
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 153
ASRS Report	93628
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 500 vertical : 200
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Departed ontario airport runway 26R on SID (prado one departure) cleared to 14000' to cross arnee below 9000'. Turned east on sli 080 degree. At approximately 40-45 mi aircraft spotted about 11 O'clock high, climbing nose high (looked like twin small transport). Alerted captain who immediately turned right and slowed climb. Called lax center on 125.85 reported sighting and our intentions. Passed aircraft as described and then returned to course and climb. Controller had no knowledge (related to us) of presence of unidentified aircraft. Twin small transport was very nose high and do not think he saw us.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: VFR ACFT ENCOUNTERED WHILE FLYING SID, NO TRAFFIC ADVISORY.

Narrative: DEPARTED ONTARIO ARPT RWY 26R ON SID (PRADO ONE DEP) CLRED TO 14000' TO CROSS ARNEE BELOW 9000'. TURNED E ON SLI 080 DEG. AT APPROX 40-45 MI ACFT SPOTTED ABOUT 11 O'CLOCK HIGH, CLBING NOSE HIGH (LOOKED LIKE TWIN SMT). ALERTED CAPT WHO IMMEDIATELY TURNED R AND SLOWED CLB. CALLED LAX CENTER ON 125.85 RPTED SIGHTING AND OUR INTENTIONS. PASSED ACFT AS DESCRIBED AND THEN RETURNED TO COURSE AND CLB. CTLR HAD NO KNOWLEDGE (RELATED TO US) OF PRESENCE OF UNIDENTIFIED ACFT. TWIN SMT WAS VERY NOSE HIGH AND DO NOT THINK HE SAW US.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.