Temporary airman certificate invalid account out of date.

Attributes
ACN	90349
Time
Date	198806
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : dfw
State Reference	TX
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : iad
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1700
ASRS Report	90349
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Checked out as captain and received temporary airman certificate with new type rating dated 2/88. Expiration date 120 days hence (6/88). Flew regularly during that 120 day period and unfortunately 3 days beyond. I realized I was not legal prior to a trip at 4 days beyond and called the company to remove myself from the flying schedule if the FAA could not extend the date. Being it was a weekend, no one in okc was on duty to handle such things, so I did not fly that day, I personally found a poi in dallas and went to his house to get the certificate reissued for another 120 days. He indicated the FAA in okc was running 50 days behind. There are many of us flying with these temporary certificates waiting to turn into 'pumpkins' with no system in place to remind us the clock is running out on a piece of paper that normally (hard copy license) has no expiration date and no one willing (or possible able) to speed up the process to get them to us within the 120 days. If the FAA knows they have a processing problem, why not just issue the temporary certificates for 6 months, or better yet, make them valid until the permanent certificate arrives. The current system is a set up for being technically violated. An honest mistake that probably can and will happen to others.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: TEMPORARY AIRMAN CERTIFICATE INVALID ACCOUNT OUT OF DATE.

Narrative: CHECKED OUT AS CAPT AND RECEIVED TEMPORARY AIRMAN CERTIFICATE WITH NEW TYPE RATING DATED 2/88. EXPIRATION DATE 120 DAYS HENCE (6/88). FLEW REGULARLY DURING THAT 120 DAY PERIOD AND UNFORTUNATELY 3 DAYS BEYOND. I REALIZED I WAS NOT LEGAL PRIOR TO A TRIP AT 4 DAYS BEYOND AND CALLED THE COMPANY TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM THE FLYING SCHEDULE IF THE FAA COULD NOT EXTEND THE DATE. BEING IT WAS A WEEKEND, NO ONE IN OKC WAS ON DUTY TO HANDLE SUCH THINGS, SO I DID NOT FLY THAT DAY, I PERSONALLY FOUND A POI IN DALLAS AND WENT TO HIS HOUSE TO GET THE CERTIFICATE REISSUED FOR ANOTHER 120 DAYS. HE INDICATED THE FAA IN OKC WAS RUNNING 50 DAYS BEHIND. THERE ARE MANY OF US FLYING WITH THESE TEMPORARY CERTIFICATES WAITING TO TURN INTO 'PUMPKINS' WITH NO SYS IN PLACE TO REMIND US THE CLOCK IS RUNNING OUT ON A PIECE OF PAPER THAT NORMALLY (HARD COPY LICENSE) HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE AND NO ONE WILLING (OR POSSIBLE ABLE) TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS TO GET THEM TO US WITHIN THE 120 DAYS. IF THE FAA KNOWS THEY HAVE A PROCESSING PROB, WHY NOT JUST ISSUE THE TEMPORARY CERTIFICATES FOR 6 MONTHS, OR BETTER YET, MAKE THEM VALID UNTIL THE PERMANENT CERTIFICATE ARRIVES. THE CURRENT SYS IS A SET UP FOR BEING TECHNICALLY VIOLATED. AN HONEST MISTAKE THAT PROBABLY CAN AND WILL HAPPEN TO OTHERS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.