Parallel departures had to be crossed shortly after takeoff.

Attributes
ACN	90191
Time
Date	198806
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	90191
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 12000 vertical : 500
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Departed lax 24L clearance maintain 250 degree heading, 2000', loop 5 dag transition leveling at 2000', received clearance to climb to 13000'. Continued climb leaving 4500', controller said level at 4000'. Informed him negative as now leaving 4500-5000'. Controller reduced to 210 KTS. Then wanted to know if medium large transport in sight having departed runway 25. Replied affirmative. We had leveled at 5500' asked what he wanted on altitude. Said continue climb turn left to lax VOR maintain visual separation, maintain 250 KTS. This guy was way behind the situation and in my opinion not in control. Tops of overcast 2000'. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: there was no conflict, the medium large transport was about 2 mi away. The reporter feels that the controller was very late in formulating a plan to turn the aircraft off the south runway to the north and turn the aircraft off the north runway to the south. The reporter is simply concerned with what he perceives as seriously overworked controllers in the lax TRACON.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PARALLEL DEPS HAD TO BE CROSSED SHORTLY AFTER TKOF.

Narrative: DEPARTED LAX 24L CLRNC MAINTAIN 250 DEG HDG, 2000', LOOP 5 DAG TRANSITION LEVELING AT 2000', RECEIVED CLRNC TO CLIMB TO 13000'. CONTINUED CLIMB LEAVING 4500', CTLR SAID LEVEL AT 4000'. INFORMED HIM NEGATIVE AS NOW LEAVING 4500-5000'. CTLR REDUCED TO 210 KTS. THEN WANTED TO KNOW IF MLG IN SIGHT HAVING DEPARTED RWY 25. REPLIED AFFIRMATIVE. WE HAD LEVELED AT 5500' ASKED WHAT HE WANTED ON ALT. SAID CONTINUE CLIMB TURN LEFT TO LAX VOR MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION, MAINTAIN 250 KTS. THIS GUY WAS WAY BEHIND THE SITUATION AND IN MY OPINION NOT IN CONTROL. TOPS OF OVERCAST 2000'. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION: THERE WAS NO CONFLICT, THE MLG WAS ABOUT 2 MI AWAY. THE RPTR FEELS THAT THE CTLR WAS VERY LATE IN FORMULATING A PLAN TO TURN THE ACFT OFF THE SOUTH RWY TO THE NORTH AND TURN THE ACFT OFF THE NORTH RWY TO THE SOUTH. THE RPTR IS SIMPLY CONCERNED WITH WHAT HE PERCEIVES AS SERIOUSLY OVERWORKED CTLRS IN THE LAX TRACON.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.