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Air carrier medium large transport allowed to enter adjacent airspace without coordination or pointout or handoff.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 89766 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198806 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 9 controller non radar : 10 controller radar : 18 |
| ASRS Report | 89766 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Large transport X departed lga runway 13 on a whitestone climb. He was very slow in climbing to 1500' and very slow to start a left turn to 040 degree after reaching 1500'. Medium large transport Y departed runway 13 and contacted lga departure radar at 1500'. I instructed medium large transport Y to continue present heading and maintain 2000' to prevent medium large transport Y from turning and climbing into large transport X. By the time I could turn medium large transport Y a system deviation had occurred (penetration of jfk airspace). The penetration was observed by a jfk controller and reported as I was involved with some other aircraft and coordination.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ALLOWED TO ENTER ADJACENT AIRSPACE WITHOUT COORD OR POINTOUT OR HANDOFF.
Narrative: LGT X DEPARTED LGA RWY 13 ON A WHITESTONE CLIMB. HE WAS VERY SLOW IN CLIMBING TO 1500' AND VERY SLOW TO START A LEFT TURN TO 040 DEG AFTER REACHING 1500'. MLG Y DEPARTED RWY 13 AND CONTACTED LGA DEPARTURE RADAR AT 1500'. I INSTRUCTED MLG Y TO CONTINUE PRESENT HDG AND MAINTAIN 2000' TO PREVENT MLG Y FROM TURNING AND CLIMBING INTO LGT X. BY THE TIME I COULD TURN MLG Y A SYSTEM DEVIATION HAD OCCURRED (PENETRATION OF JFK AIRSPACE). THE PENETRATION WAS OBSERVED BY A JFK CTLR AND REPORTED AS I WAS INVOLVED WITH SOME OTHER ACFT AND COORD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.