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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 85782 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198804 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dtw airport : yip |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dtw |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 5 |
| ASRS Report | 85782 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Small aircraft X was eastbound at 6000' corp Y was nwbnd 7000'. Y said he had willow run airport in sight several times. I, being the controller working the 2 aircraft, told corp Y, 'roger, maintain 6000'.' slip of the tongue. Y readback, 'roger, 6000,' was not caught by me. After I switched Y to another frequency, I noticed him leaving 6900'. I checked my frequency, but he wasn't there and the other controller wasn't talking to him yet either. I gave aircraft X traffic and he had corp Y in sight. I just misspoke myself by saying maintain 6000' instead of 7000'. The radar scope was being used by 2 controllers, one working north traffic, one working south traffic. So, the map display is very small and hard to judge distance. The ARTS system has had a history of coasting when aircraft are at level flight. This coasting blocks out their mode C readout, which happened in this case.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN GA-SMA AND CORP JET. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: SMA X WAS EBND AT 6000' CORP Y WAS NWBND 7000'. Y SAID HE HAD WILLOW RUN ARPT IN SIGHT SEVERAL TIMES. I, BEING THE CTLR WORKING THE 2 ACFT, TOLD CORP Y, 'ROGER, MAINTAIN 6000'.' SLIP OF THE TONGUE. Y READBACK, 'ROGER, 6000,' WAS NOT CAUGHT BY ME. AFTER I SWITCHED Y TO ANOTHER FREQ, I NOTICED HIM LEAVING 6900'. I CHKED MY FREQ, BUT HE WASN'T THERE AND THE OTHER CTLR WASN'T TALKING TO HIM YET EITHER. I GAVE ACFT X TFC AND HE HAD CORP Y IN SIGHT. I JUST MISSPOKE MYSELF BY SAYING MAINTAIN 6000' INSTEAD OF 7000'. THE RADAR SCOPE WAS BEING USED BY 2 CTLRS, ONE WORKING N TFC, ONE WORKING S TFC. SO, THE MAP DISPLAY IS VERY SMALL AND HARD TO JUDGE DISTANCE. THE ARTS SYS HAS HAD A HISTORY OF COASTING WHEN ACFT ARE AT LEVEL FLT. THIS COASTING BLOCKS OUT THEIR MODE C READOUT, WHICH HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.