Potential conflict between GA small aircraft and military small aircraft.

Attributes
ACN	80533
Time
Date	198801
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : cys airport : zzz airport : few
State Reference	WY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500 msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	climbout : initial climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Helicopter
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 999
ASRS Report	80533
Person 2
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : military
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 4000 vertical : 100
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Departed private turf runway as indicated. A military mlt Y was performing hover maneuvers. Pilot of mlt Y did not observe my departure although I and a passenger (also a pilot) had contact with mlt Y we passed about 3/4 mi from mlt Y he must have been concerned since later cys app informed me he reported a 'near miss'. Judging from the section lines in the farm land we could have passed no closer than 3/4 mi. After talking to instructor pilot of mlt Y I learned the pilot being checked out was taking the precaution of reporting to avoid a 'bust' on check ride. There was really no near miss and we both agree there was no problem. These things however have a way of surfacing later I just want to inform those responsible for safety so there are no problems in the future. Incidentally I informed casper FSS of the location of my private runway which is used almost everyday.I did that 3 years ago and it still isn't on the charts. The mlt Y pilot says no one knew it was there and they do missions to a missile base only 2 mi from my strip several times a week. It would have avoided this problem, perhaps, had the runway been on their charts.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT BETWEEN GA SMA AND MIL SMA.

Narrative: DEPARTED PRIVATE TURF RWY AS INDICATED. A MIL MLT Y WAS PERFORMING HOVER MANEUVERS. PLT OF MLT Y DID NOT OBSERVE MY DEPARTURE ALTHOUGH I AND A PASSENGER (ALSO A PLT) HAD CONTACT WITH MLT Y WE PASSED ABOUT 3/4 MI FROM MLT Y HE MUST HAVE BEEN CONCERNED SINCE LATER CYS APP INFORMED ME HE REPORTED A 'NEAR MISS'. JUDGING FROM THE SECTION LINES IN THE FARM LAND WE COULD HAVE PASSED NO CLOSER THAN 3/4 MI. AFTER TALKING TO INSTRUCTOR PLT OF MLT Y I LEARNED THE PLT BEING CHECKED OUT WAS TAKING THE PRECAUTION OF REPORTING TO AVOID A 'BUST' ON CHECK RIDE. THERE WAS REALLY NO NEAR MISS AND WE BOTH AGREE THERE WAS NO PROBLEM. THESE THINGS HOWEVER HAVE A WAY OF SURFACING LATER I JUST WANT TO INFORM THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR SAFETY SO THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. INCIDENTALLY I INFORMED CASPER FSS OF THE LOCATION OF MY PRIVATE RWY WHICH IS USED ALMOST EVERYDAY.I DID THAT 3 YEARS AGO AND IT STILL ISN'T ON THE CHARTS. THE MLT Y PLT SAYS NO ONE KNEW IT WAS THERE AND THEY DO MISSIONS TO A MISSILE BASE ONLY 2 MI FROM MY STRIP SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK. IT WOULD HAVE AVOIDED THIS PROBLEM, PERHAPS, HAD THE RWY BEEN ON THEIR CHARTS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.