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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : gnv|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 17000|
msl bound upper : 17000
|Controlling Facilities||artcc : zma|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Route In Use||enroute airway : zma|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 250|
flight time total : 13500
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : commercial
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
none taken : detected after the fact
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Operational Deviation|
Turbulence was encountered at crs FL310. In search of smoother flight conditions the flight eventually ended at 17000 ft, other air carrier flts ahead of ours had descended to 15000 ft and 12000 ft, and were still reporting moderate turbulence. Medium large transport X was clrd dir to taylor VOR prior to reaching 17000 ft. We were operating on that clearance when we descended to 17000 ft. Prior to overflying the taylor VOR, ATC (jacksonville center) issued a turn to a 150 degree heading for traffic. We were then instructed to turn to a 170 degree heading and intercept the gater 5 arrival into fll. A second turn off course for traffic was issued and complied with, then we were advised to reintercept the arrival. The flight then intercepted and was flying on the 153 degree radial of gainesville VOR, en route to gater intersection when jacksonville center said, 'medium large transport X, turn right to 240 degrees immediately.' I immediately complied with center's command. Approximately 30 seconds later center issued a turn clearance back to the left to 155 degrees to intercept the biscayne bay VOR 335 degree radial, and fly it inbound. They stated that we had flown into an active restr area that was in use by the us army firing live ordinance above 12000 ft from the surface. I questioned them because the 2 90 degree turns in rapid succession didn't seem to me to displace the aircraft far enough over the ground to indicate that we were in fact in a restr area. The response was that restr area 2901 was hot and that they were unaware of it, but that they had gotten us out. I maintain that the flight was being conducted in accordance with an ATC clearance, flight conditions were in WX, moderate turbulence, light icing, and no ground contact. The flight was vectored by jacksonville center into an active restr area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR GAVE CLRNC THAT TOOK ACR MLG INTO HOT RESTRICTED AREA AT AN UNUSUALLY LOW ALT.
Narrative: TURBULENCE WAS ENCOUNTERED AT CRS FL310. IN SEARCH OF SMOOTHER FLT CONDITIONS THE FLT EVENTUALLY ENDED AT 17000 FT, OTHER AIR CARRIER FLTS AHEAD OF OURS HAD DSNDED TO 15000 FT AND 12000 FT, AND WERE STILL RPTING MODERATE TURBULENCE. MLG X WAS CLRD DIR TO TAYLOR VOR PRIOR TO REACHING 17000 FT. WE WERE OPERATING ON THAT CLRNC WHEN WE DSNDED TO 17000 FT. PRIOR TO OVERFLYING THE TAYLOR VOR, ATC (JACKSONVILLE CTR) ISSUED A TURN TO A 150 DEG HDG FOR TFC. WE WERE THEN INSTRUCTED TO TURN TO A 170 DEG HDG AND INTERCEPT THE GATER 5 ARR INTO FLL. A SECOND TURN OFF COURSE FOR TFC WAS ISSUED AND COMPLIED WITH, THEN WE WERE ADVISED TO REINTERCEPT THE ARR. THE FLT THEN INTERCEPTED AND WAS FLYING ON THE 153 DEG RADIAL OF GAINESVILLE VOR, ENRTE TO GATER INTXN WHEN JACKSONVILLE CTR SAID, 'MLG X, TURN R TO 240 DEGS IMMEDIATELY.' I IMMEDIATELY COMPLIED WITH CTR'S COMMAND. APPROX 30 SECS LATER CTR ISSUED A TURN CLRNC BACK TO THE L TO 155 DEGS TO INTERCEPT THE BISCAYNE BAY VOR 335 DEG RADIAL, AND FLY IT INBND. THEY STATED THAT WE HAD FLOWN INTO AN ACTIVE RESTR AREA THAT WAS IN USE BY THE U.S. ARMY FIRING LIVE ORDINANCE ABOVE 12000 FT FROM THE SURFACE. I QUESTIONED THEM BECAUSE THE 2 90 DEG TURNS IN RAPID SUCCESSION DIDN'T SEEM TO ME TO DISPLACE THE ACFT FAR ENOUGH OVER THE GND TO INDICATE THAT WE WERE IN FACT IN A RESTR AREA. THE RESPONSE WAS THAT RESTR AREA 2901 WAS HOT AND THAT THEY WERE UNAWARE OF IT, BUT THAT THEY HAD GOTTEN US OUT. I MAINTAIN THAT THE FLT WAS BEING CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH AN ATC CLRNC, FLT CONDITIONS WERE IN WX, MODERATE TURBULENCE, LIGHT ICING, AND NO GND CONTACT. THE FLT WAS VECTORED BY JACKSONVILLE CTR INTO AN ACTIVE RESTR AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.