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|Locale Reference||navaid : cri.vor|
|Altitude||msl single value : 5000|
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : n90.tracon|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Regional Jet 200 ER&LR|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 121|
|Navigation In Use||other|
|Flight Phase||climbout : takeoff|
|Route In Use||departure sid : kennedy|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 170|
flight time total : 1380
flight time type : 360
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Anomaly||non adherence : clearance|
non adherence : published procedure
other spatial deviation
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Problem Areas||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
The captain and I met in the lobby of hotel in jfk at XA50; introduced ourselves; and both of us commented on how neither of us slept very well. It was the captain's leg and during the takeoff brief he described the kennedy one departure; canarsie climb. He was in green data and had R176 set for the course. He had also programmed the FMS with cri as a fix with the R039. I was in white data. The takeoff was normal; at 400 ft he began his turn toward cri. Tower switched us to departure. I checked in and we were given 7000 ft. The captain called for the climb check; which I did. Prior to verifying the checklist I took a moment to check the instrument and get situationally aware. The captain's course was set to R223 to cri. I never saw him center the course. I paused for a second; looked at the course (we were east of R039 which I verified with the FMS). Looking at my FMS on the 10 NM ring I noticed that cri was very close. As I changed the range to 2.5 NM; I asked; '176 degree radial is outbound course right?' he said; 'yes; that's the outbound course.' as he turned the course to R176; the airplane immediately starting turning left. We were through about a 200 degree heading when ATC asked if we were assigned canarsie climb; which I confirmed. He then stated; 'I'm showing you 3 NM south of course.' I said; 'we were in the turn.' he then assigned us a heading of 120 degrees. Nothing else was said. We were then cleared direct wavey then on course. Possible factor: captain not setting 176 degree course soon enough; me not delaying climb check during busy departure procedure. Proper monitoring during the departure on my part would have more than likely prevented the deviation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ200 CREW TURNS LATE ON THE KENNEDY 1 CANARSIE CLIMB.
Narrative: THE CAPT AND I MET IN THE LOBBY OF HOTEL IN JFK AT XA50; INTRODUCED OURSELVES; AND BOTH OF US COMMENTED ON HOW NEITHER OF US SLEPT VERY WELL. IT WAS THE CAPT'S LEG AND DURING THE TKOF BRIEF HE DESCRIBED THE KENNEDY ONE DEP; CANARSIE CLB. HE WAS IN GREEN DATA AND HAD R176 SET FOR THE COURSE. HE HAD ALSO PROGRAMMED THE FMS WITH CRI AS A FIX WITH THE R039. I WAS IN WHITE DATA. THE TKOF WAS NORMAL; AT 400 FT HE BEGAN HIS TURN TOWARD CRI. TWR SWITCHED US TO DEP. I CHKED IN AND WE WERE GIVEN 7000 FT. THE CAPT CALLED FOR THE CLB CHK; WHICH I DID. PRIOR TO VERIFYING THE CHKLIST I TOOK A MOMENT TO CHK THE INSTRUMENT AND GET SITUATIONALLY AWARE. THE CAPT'S COURSE WAS SET TO R223 TO CRI. I NEVER SAW HIM CTR THE COURSE. I PAUSED FOR A SECOND; LOOKED AT THE COURSE (WE WERE E OF R039 WHICH I VERIFIED WITH THE FMS). LOOKING AT MY FMS ON THE 10 NM RING I NOTICED THAT CRI WAS VERY CLOSE. AS I CHANGED THE RANGE TO 2.5 NM; I ASKED; '176 DEG RADIAL IS OUTBOUND COURSE RIGHT?' HE SAID; 'YES; THAT'S THE OUTBOUND COURSE.' AS HE TURNED THE COURSE TO R176; THE AIRPLANE IMMEDIATELY STARTING TURNING L. WE WERE THROUGH ABOUT A 200 DEG HDG WHEN ATC ASKED IF WE WERE ASSIGNED CANARSIE CLB; WHICH I CONFIRMED. HE THEN STATED; 'I'M SHOWING YOU 3 NM S OF COURSE.' I SAID; 'WE WERE IN THE TURN.' HE THEN ASSIGNED US A HDG OF 120 DEGS. NOTHING ELSE WAS SAID. WE WERE THEN CLRED DIRECT WAVEY THEN ON COURSE. POSSIBLE FACTOR: CAPT NOT SETTING 176 DEG COURSE SOON ENOUGH; ME NOT DELAYING CLB CHK DURING BUSY DEP PROC. PROPER MONITORING DURING THE DEP ON MY PART WOULD HAVE MORE THAN LIKELY PREVENTED THE DEV.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.