An MD80 crew remarks that slc TRACON expects flts 250 KTS for departures until advised; but neither the FFU6 departure nor the pre departure clearance states a restricted speed above 10000 ft.

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Attributes
ACN	701350
Time
Date	200606
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : s56.tracon
State Reference	UT
Altitude	msl single value : 15000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : s56.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure sid : fairfield 6
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
ASRS Report	701350
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
ASRS Report	701351
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Chart Or Publication
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Situations
Chart	sid : ffu6

Narrative:

Departing slc on the FAIRFIELD6 departure climbing through 15000 ft; ATC asked us our speed and we replied 300 KTS. ATC told us that speed should be 250 KTS. Nowhere in the 10-3 page on the fairfield departure does it say to maintain 250 KTS. This speed should be added to the commercial 10-3 page. The pre departure clearance states; 'maintain 10000 ft do not exceed 250 KTS.' the captain and I both thought that is what we always do below 10000 ft. I suggest the pre departure clearance should be changed to state; 'maintain 10000 ft do not exceed 250 KTS until advised.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN MD80 CREW REMARKS THAT SLC TRACON EXPECTS FLTS 250 KTS FOR DEPS UNTIL ADVISED; BUT NEITHER THE FFU6 DEP NOR THE PDC STATES A RESTRICTED SPD ABOVE 10000 FT.

Narrative: DEPARTING SLC ON THE FAIRFIELD6 DEP CLBING THROUGH 15000 FT; ATC ASKED US OUR SPD AND WE REPLIED 300 KTS. ATC TOLD US THAT SPD SHOULD BE 250 KTS. NOWHERE IN THE 10-3 PAGE ON THE FAIRFIELD DEP DOES IT SAY TO MAINTAIN 250 KTS. THIS SPD SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE COMMERCIAL 10-3 PAGE. THE PDC STATES; 'MAINTAIN 10000 FT DO NOT EXCEED 250 KTS.' THE CAPT AND I BOTH THOUGHT THAT IS WHAT WE ALWAYS DO BELOW 10000 FT. I SUGGEST THE PDC SHOULD BE CHANGED TO STATE; 'MAINTAIN 10000 FT DO NOT EXCEED 250 KTS UNTIL ADVISED.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.