<< >> NASA ASRS Report 647730, February 2005

Flight crew of H125 on teb departure fail to maintain 1500 ft per procedure. Climb to 2000 ft given in pre departure clearance.

Attributes
ACN	647730
Time
Date	200502
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : teb.airport
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2000
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Weather Elements	Rain Turbulence
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90.tracon
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	BAe 125 Series 800
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure sid : teb 5
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	647730
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6400 flight time type : 1900
ASRS Report	647731
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	atc equipment other atc equipment : mode iii radar other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to assigned altitude
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication Aircraft
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

During a noise abatement takeoff; runway 24 teb; on the teb 5 departure (SID); we climbed on runway heading per the SID; and started the charted route to 280 degrees. At this point; we prematurely continued to climb to 2000 ft prior to the 4.5 DME fix off of teb VOR. Note: we were assigned 2000 ft in the clearance. At this point; the departure controller then reminded us we should be at 1500 ft. We immediately returned to 1500 ft and continued the departure with no further incident. Contributing factors: 1) 12.5 hour duty day at that point. 2) distracted by performing a noise abatement takeoff during critical phase of flight. 3) given 2000 ft in clearance; potentially confusing when compared to departure. Suggestion: ATC should initially clear aircraft to 1500 ft then issue the climb. Supplemental information from acn 647731: our initial clearance was to 2000 ft which was put in the altitude selector. This caused the flight director to not capture at 1500 ft. We were at about 12.5 hours duty time at the time of occurrence.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT CREW OF H125 ON TEB DEP FAIL TO MAINTAIN 1500 FT PER PROC. CLB TO 2000 FT GIVEN IN PRE DEP CLRNC.

Narrative: DURING A NOISE ABATEMENT TKOF; RWY 24 TEB; ON THE TEB 5 DEP (SID); WE CLBED ON RWY HDG PER THE SID; AND STARTED THE CHARTED RTE TO 280 DEGS. AT THIS POINT; WE PREMATURELY CONTINUED TO CLB TO 2000 FT PRIOR TO THE 4.5 DME FIX OFF OF TEB VOR. NOTE: WE WERE ASSIGNED 2000 FT IN THE CLRNC. AT THIS POINT; THE DEP CTLR THEN REMINDED US WE SHOULD BE AT 1500 FT. WE IMMEDIATELY RETURNED TO 1500 FT AND CONTINUED THE DEP WITH NO FURTHER INCIDENT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 1) 12.5 HR DUTY DAY AT THAT POINT. 2) DISTRACTED BY PERFORMING A NOISE ABATEMENT TKOF DURING CRITICAL PHASE OF FLT. 3) GIVEN 2000 FT IN CLRNC; POTENTIALLY CONFUSING WHEN COMPARED TO DEP. SUGGESTION: ATC SHOULD INITIALLY CLR ACFT TO 1500 FT THEN ISSUE THE CLB. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 647731: OUR INITIAL CLRNC WAS TO 2000 FT WHICH WAS PUT IN THE ALT SELECTOR. THIS CAUSED THE FLT DIRECTOR TO NOT CAPTURE AT 1500 FT. WE WERE AT ABOUT 12.5 HRS DUTY TIME AT THE TIME OF OCCURRENCE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.