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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 488910 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200010 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : bowie |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl single value : 24000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : ns |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| ASRS Report | 488910 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Crossing altitude relief. It was captain's leg and we had been given pilot's discretion to cross 40 mi west of bowie at FL240. After a frequency change and at about 50 mi from bowie, ATC asked us if we had been given a descent to FL240. I replied we had been given pilot's discretion, and that we needed relief on the crossing. At about 47 mi out, ATC cleared us to cross bambee at 11000 ft. I said thanks and he said 'no problem' so I think he gave us the relief we requested.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW DID NOT COMPLY WITH AN ATC ISSUED XING RESTR IN ZFW CLASS A AIRSPACE.
Narrative: XING ALT RELIEF. IT WAS CAPT'S LEG AND WE HAD BEEN GIVEN PLT'S DISCRETION TO CROSS 40 MI W OF BOWIE AT FL240. AFTER A FREQ CHANGE AND AT ABOUT 50 MI FROM BOWIE, ATC ASKED US IF WE HAD BEEN GIVEN A DSCNT TO FL240. I REPLIED WE HAD BEEN GIVEN PLT'S DISCRETION, AND THAT WE NEEDED RELIEF ON THE XING. AT ABOUT 47 MI OUT, ATC CLRED US TO CROSS BAMBEE AT 11000 FT. I SAID THANKS AND HE SAID 'NO PROB' SO I THINK HE GAVE US THE RELIEF WE REQUESTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.