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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 450071 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199909 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : l12.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure : vfr |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 2400 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 450071 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other spatial deviation other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On training flight with a foreign student. While on the first departure from runway 26 just prior to turning crosswind, the second aircraft in question came into view off the r-hand side of our plane going the opposite direction. Apparently, what in my estimation was a very close, tight downwind for runway 26. We had to snap left to lessen the closure rate. The cause, in my opinion, was a lack of correct radio usage together with a non compliant traffic pattern in accordance with the aim and applicable FARS. As it turned out, the other aircraft was plted by a piper cherokee pilot based here at redlands.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C152 TRAINING FLT HAS AN NMAC WITH A PA28 ARRIVING UNANNOUNCED NEAR THE XWIND LEG AT L12, CA.
Narrative: ON TRAINING FLT WITH A FOREIGN STUDENT. WHILE ON THE FIRST DEP FROM RWY 26 JUST PRIOR TO TURNING XWIND, THE SECOND ACFT IN QUESTION CAME INTO VIEW OFF THE R-HAND SIDE OF OUR PLANE GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. APPARENTLY, WHAT IN MY ESTIMATION WAS A VERY CLOSE, TIGHT DOWNWIND FOR RWY 26. WE HAD TO SNAP L TO LESSEN THE CLOSURE RATE. THE CAUSE, IN MY OPINION, WAS A LACK OF CORRECT RADIO USAGE TOGETHER WITH A NON COMPLIANT TFC PATTERN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AIM AND APPLICABLE FARS. AS IT TURNED OUT, THE OTHER ACFT WAS PLTED BY A PIPER CHEROKEE PLT BASED HERE AT REDLANDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.