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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 407783 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199807 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | landing : go around |
| Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 14 |
| ASRS Report | 407783 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X on departure and air carrier Y on missed approach. Air carrier Y on vector west of lax with expectation of turning north for sequencing back to downwind. Run down list of lax departures showed no planned departures from either complex. Air carrier Y is turned to a heading of 330 degrees and climbed from 2000 ft MSL to 5000 ft MSL, at a point 5 mi west of lax. As air carrier Y completes his turn and is leaving 3000 ft a data tag displays and a check in call is made by air carrier X. Air carrier X was an unexpected departure since there were no planned departures in the run down checklist. Air carrier X is approximately 5 mi west of lax and reports level at 3000 ft. Although courses of air carrier X and air carrier Y have diverged, separation is 1.5 mi horizontal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRACON DEP CTLR HAS B757 ON GAR AND PLANS VECTOR TO N AND E OF ARPT. NOT SEEING ANY ACFT IN PROPOSED DEP LIST, HE INITIATES VECTOR N. A NON ARTS DISPLAYED B737 RPTS ON FREQ AT SAME ALT OF CLBING B757, PASSING BEHIND GAR B757 TFC AND SEPARATION IS LOST.
Narrative: ACR X ON DEP AND ACR Y ON MISSED APCH. ACR Y ON VECTOR W OF LAX WITH EXPECTATION OF TURNING N FOR SEQUENCING BACK TO DOWNWIND. RUN DOWN LIST OF LAX DEPS SHOWED NO PLANNED DEPS FROM EITHER COMPLEX. ACR Y IS TURNED TO A HDG OF 330 DEGS AND CLBED FROM 2000 FT MSL TO 5000 FT MSL, AT A POINT 5 MI W OF LAX. AS ACR Y COMPLETES HIS TURN AND IS LEAVING 3000 FT A DATA TAG DISPLAYS AND A CHK IN CALL IS MADE BY ACR X. ACR X WAS AN UNEXPECTED DEP SINCE THERE WERE NO PLANNED DEPS IN THE RUN DOWN CHKLIST. ACR X IS APPROX 5 MI W OF LAX AND RPTS LEVEL AT 3000 FT. ALTHOUGH COURSES OF ACR X AND ACR Y HAVE DIVERGED, SEPARATION IS 1.5 MI HORIZ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.