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B737-300 aircraft cleared for ILS approach with a crossing restr which was above the GS. PF, reporter captain, followed GS and went below crossing restr until approach controller reminded him of the crossing restr for traffic.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 392460 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199801 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mco |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2200 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco tracon : oak |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 13000 |
| ASRS Report | 392460 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 392930 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On visual approach to runway 18R was instructed to cross orl VOR at 2500 ft. (Standard on that runway.) was set up in cockpit for ILS runway 18R. Intercepted localizer outside of VOR. Began to follow GS down, but that takes you below 2500 ft at VOR. Saw orl airport pass under nose, thought was passing it. Did not have VOR set on my side, just using visual on orl airport. Controller said check altitude, was 300 ft low over orl VOR. Perception was all is well because I'm following the GS. That must give me proper clearance on approach. Wrong. Not on visual.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 ACFT CLRED FOR ILS APCH WITH A XING RESTR WHICH WAS ABOVE THE GS. PF, RPTR CAPT, FOLLOWED GS AND WENT BELOW XING RESTR UNTIL APCH CTLR REMINDED HIM OF THE XING RESTR FOR TFC.
Narrative: ON VISUAL APCH TO RWY 18R WAS INSTRUCTED TO CROSS ORL VOR AT 2500 FT. (STANDARD ON THAT RWY.) WAS SET UP IN COCKPIT FOR ILS RWY 18R. INTERCEPTED LOC OUTSIDE OF VOR. BEGAN TO FOLLOW GS DOWN, BUT THAT TAKES YOU BELOW 2500 FT AT VOR. SAW ORL ARPT PASS UNDER NOSE, THOUGHT WAS PASSING IT. DID NOT HAVE VOR SET ON MY SIDE, JUST USING VISUAL ON ORL ARPT. CTLR SAID CHK ALT, WAS 300 FT LOW OVER ORL VOR. PERCEPTION WAS ALL IS WELL BECAUSE I'M FOLLOWING THE GS. THAT MUST GIVE ME PROPER CLRNC ON APCH. WRONG. NOT ON VISUAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.