<< >> NASA ASRS Report 366030, April 1997

Reporter on a SID noise abatement departure off runway 34 questions controller about no turns below 6500 ft and south of the echo NDB when a right turn is issued. Procedure restricts left turns.

Attributes
ACN	366030
Time
Date	199704
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : yyc
State Reference	AB
Altitude	msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : yyc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Super 80
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	366030
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other other anomaly other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Departing runway 34 at yyc noise procedure says no turns below 6500 ft before echo NDB. At about 4500 ft controller gives us a 080 degree heading to intercept J504. When asked about the restr, he said it did not pertain to runway 34 and turn at our discretion. So we turned to 080 degrees prior to 6500 ft. I do not suspect any problem here but would like to know why the controller contradicted the procedure on the departure page.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RPTR ON A SID NOISE ABATEMENT DEP OFF RWY 34 QUESTIONS CTLR ABOUT NO TURNS BELOW 6500 FT AND S OF THE ECHO NDB WHEN A R TURN IS ISSUED. PROC RESTRICTS L TURNS.

Narrative: DEPARTING RWY 34 AT YYC NOISE PROC SAYS NO TURNS BELOW 6500 FT BEFORE ECHO NDB. AT ABOUT 4500 FT CTLR GIVES US A 080 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT J504. WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE RESTR, HE SAID IT DID NOT PERTAIN TO RWY 34 AND TURN AT OUR DISCRETION. SO WE TURNED TO 080 DEGS PRIOR TO 6500 FT. I DO NOT SUSPECT ANY PROB HERE BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE CTLR CONTRADICTED THE PROC ON THE DEP PAGE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.