An air carrier medium large transport without an FMS filed a very long direct route in a non radar a...

Attributes
ACN	303509
Time
Date	199505
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : mot
State Reference	ND
Altitude	msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : czwg artcc : zmp
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-9 30
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : direct enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 18500 flight time type : 14100
ASRS Report	303509
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
ASRS Report	303722
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : overcame equipment problem none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
Navigational Aid	Unspecified

Narrative:

New service from msp to yyc. Dispatch filed route. Upon arrival mot, noticed our chart indicated no approved direct routing to yyn. Requested radar vector from ZMP to yyn. When handed off to winnipeg center, we advised them that we were on a radar vector to yyn. Dispatch was notified of the discrepancy in routing. They checked route and noted that route came from database not used by our aircraft type. They also advised that they were seeking approval for direct route between mot and yyn, and in the interim an airway route would be filed.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR MLG WITHOUT AN FMS FILED A VERY LONG DIRECT RTE IN A NON RADAR AIRSPACE.

Narrative: NEW SVC FROM MSP TO YYC. DISPATCH FILED RTE. UPON ARR MOT, NOTICED OUR CHART INDICATED NO APPROVED DIRECT ROUTING TO YYN. REQUESTED RADAR VECTOR FROM ZMP TO YYN. WHEN HANDED OFF TO WINNIPEG CTR, WE ADVISED THEM THAT WE WERE ON A RADAR VECTOR TO YYN. DISPATCH WAS NOTIFIED OF THE DISCREPANCY IN ROUTING. THEY CHKED RTE AND NOTED THAT RTE CAME FROM DATABASE NOT USED BY OUR ACFT TYPE. THEY ALSO ADVISED THAT THEY WERE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR DIRECT RTE BTWN MOT AND YYN, AND IN THE INTERIM AN AIRWAY RTE WOULD BE FILED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

An air carrier medium large transport without an FMS filed a very long direct route in a non radar airspace.