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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 269610 | 
| Time | |
| Date | 199404 | 
| Day | Tue | 
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 | 
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : psk | 
| State Reference | VA | 
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000  | 
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed | 
| Light | Daylight | 
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl artcc : zdc  | 
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier | 
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 | 
| Flight Phase | cruise other | 
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors | 
| Flight Plan | IFR | 
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier | 
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 | 
| Flight Phase | cruise other | 
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors | 
| Flight Plan | IFR | 
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa | 
| Function | controller : radar | 
| Qualification | controller : radar | 
| Experience | controller radar : 1 | 
| ASRS Report | 269610 | 
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa | 
| Function | controller : radar | 
| Qualification | controller : radar | 
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation  | 
| Independent Detector | other controllera | 
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other  | 
| Consequence | faa : investigated | 
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 0  | 
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance | 
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Error  | 
Narrative:
Aircraft X was at 370. ZTL coordinated the altitude, because aircraft was an arrival to pit, and is supposed to be at 330. Aircraft Y was climbing out of 330 for 370. Aircraft #3 at 350 was head-on traffic for Y. ZTL coordinated Y climbing, and Z showed him the traffic. He said he would miss the traffic. X was coordinated on a 040 heading for his descent. ZTL put Y on a 040 heading. After some discussion about the situation, ZTL put Y on a 090 heading, and gave control for turns plus descent for X. By the time all the coordination and communications was transferred, X was about 6 mi from Y. X turned to a 090 headway to miss Y then turned further to a 120 heading. X saw Y. Conclusion: aircraft landing pit should be required (by LOA) to be at 330 or below. The 3- way corner at pulaski VORTAC (between ZDC, ZTL and ZID) is very dangerous: hard to watch and hard to separate aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT X SAME ALT ASSIGNED HAD LTSS FROM ACFT Y. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACFT X WAS AT 370. ZTL COORDINATED THE ALT, BECAUSE ACFT WAS AN ARR TO PIT, AND IS SUPPOSED TO BE AT 330. ACFT Y WAS CLBING OUT OF 330 FOR 370. ACFT #3 AT 350 WAS HEAD-ON TFC FOR Y. ZTL COORDINATED Y CLBING, AND Z SHOWED HIM THE TFC. HE SAID HE WOULD MISS THE TFC. X WAS COORDINATED ON A 040 HDG FOR HIS DSCNT. ZTL PUT Y ON A 040 HDG. AFTER SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SIT, ZTL PUT Y ON A 090 HDG, AND GAVE CTL FOR TURNS PLUS DSCNT FOR X. BY THE TIME ALL THE COORD AND COMS WAS TRANSFERRED, X WAS ABOUT 6 MI FROM Y. X TURNED TO A 090 HEADWAY TO MISS Y THEN TURNED FURTHER TO A 120 HDG. X SAW Y. CONCLUSION: ACFT LNDG PIT SHOULD BE REQUIRED (BY LOA) TO BE AT 330 OR BELOW. THE 3- WAY CORNER AT PULASKI VORTAC (BTWN ZDC, ZTL AND ZID) IS VERY DANGEROUS: HARD TO WATCH AND HARD TO SEPARATE ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.