Near midair collision.

Attributes
ACN	260224
Time
Date	199401
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : gcn
State Reference	AZ
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 8650
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Cessna 402/402C/B379 Businessliner/Utiliner
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Cessna Stationair/Turbo Stationair 7/8
Operating Under FAR Part	other : unknown
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	260224
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 150
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Near miss. My C-402 almost ran over C-207 on a flight back from grand canyon airport to las. It was 20 mins before sunset. My training pilot and I could not see into the setting sun 11 to 12 O'clock. I called on the radio to the C-207 for his position. Both the C-207 and the C-402 had 1 VOR to use and visual chkpoints. The visual chkpoints were not much help because countryside looks the same. We saw the C-207 1130 to 12 O'clock ahead and pulled up. We flew over it about 100 to 150 ft. I am going to get a better pair of sunglasses for the sun glare.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NMAC.

Narrative: NEAR MISS. MY C-402 ALMOST RAN OVER C-207 ON A FLT BACK FROM GRAND CANYON ARPT TO LAS. IT WAS 20 MINS BEFORE SUNSET. MY TRAINING PLT AND I COULD NOT SEE INTO THE SETTING SUN 11 TO 12 O'CLOCK. I CALLED ON THE RADIO TO THE C-207 FOR HIS POS. BOTH THE C-207 AND THE C-402 HAD 1 VOR TO USE AND VISUAL CHKPOINTS. THE VISUAL CHKPOINTS WERE NOT MUCH HELP BECAUSE COUNTRYSIDE LOOKS THE SAME. WE SAW THE C-207 1130 TO 12 O'CLOCK AHEAD AND PULLED UP. WE FLEW OVER IT ABOUT 100 TO 150 FT. I AM GOING TO GET A BETTER PAIR OF SUNGLASSES FOR THE SUN GLARE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.