Flight crew of an small aircraft sel training aircraft inadvertently 'cut another aircraft out of th...

Attributes
ACN	241755
Time
Date	199305
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : apa
State Reference	CO
Altitude	agl bound lower : 800 agl bound upper : 800
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : apa artcc : zkc
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	descent : approach other
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 4800
ASRS Report	241755
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	unspecified : 200
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Late on downwind (opposite landing point) I was advised to follow traffic south of arapahoe road on base (I do not remember receiving a specific distance south of that landmark. Subsequently I was advised to allow spacing for that traffic to complete a full stop landing. I did allow such distance and turned final to follow that traffic. After that turn, the tower advised me that I cut out traffic, which in reality was probably all other aircraft which was south of arapahoe (and probably also on base). Subsequent to the 'cut out' instruction, I was advised to make a go around to the left side of runway 35R which would have put me between 2 parallel runways. I called for revised clearance, and was advised to land. After the flight, the 2ND traffic aircraft PIC informed me of a 'near miss.' it would be helpful if: 1) TA's were made earlier in the pattern to allow additional time to scan for traffic. 2) TA's were made more clearly with respect to specific distances, landmarks, or specific sequence numbers to help the pilot scan. 3) traffic patterns at busy airports should be kept to normal size, not allowed to stretch out because of high traffic levels.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF AN SMA SEL TRAINING ACFT INADVERTENTLY 'CUT ANOTHER ACFT OUT OF THE TFC PATTERN' DURING TURN TO FINAL.

Narrative: LATE ON DOWNWIND (OPPOSITE LNDG POINT) I WAS ADVISED TO FOLLOW TFC S OF ARAPAHOE ROAD ON BASE (I DO NOT REMEMBER RECEIVING A SPECIFIC DISTANCE S OF THAT LANDMARK. SUBSEQUENTLY I WAS ADVISED TO ALLOW SPACING FOR THAT TFC TO COMPLETE A FULL STOP LNDG. I DID ALLOW SUCH DISTANCE AND TURNED FINAL TO FOLLOW THAT TFC. AFTER THAT TURN, THE TWR ADVISED ME THAT I CUT OUT TFC, WHICH IN REALITY WAS PROBABLY ALL OTHER ACFT WHICH WAS S OF ARAPAHOE (AND PROBABLY ALSO ON BASE). SUBSEQUENT TO THE 'CUT OUT' INSTRUCTION, I WAS ADVISED TO MAKE A GAR TO THE L SIDE OF RWY 35R WHICH WOULD HAVE PUT ME BTWN 2 PARALLEL RWYS. I CALLED FOR REVISED CLRNC, AND WAS ADVISED TO LAND. AFTER THE FLT, THE 2ND TFC ACFT PIC INFORMED ME OF A 'NEAR MISS.' IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF: 1) TA'S WERE MADE EARLIER IN THE PATTERN TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO SCAN FOR TFC. 2) TA'S WERE MADE MORE CLRLY WITH RESPECT TO SPECIFIC DISTANCES, LANDMARKS, OR SPECIFIC SEQUENCE NUMBERS TO HELP THE PLT SCAN. 3) TFC PATTERNS AT BUSY ARPTS SHOULD BE KEPT TO NORMAL SIZE, NOT ALLOWED TO STRETCH OUT BECAUSE OF HIGH TFC LEVELS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Flight crew of an small aircraft sel training aircraft inadvertently 'cut another aircraft out of the traffic pattern' during turn to final.