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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 207758 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199204 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : amc |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 17500 msl bound upper : 17500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc tower : phl |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 6 |
| ASRS Report | 207758 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | controller : non radar controller : developmental |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 27600 vertical : 700 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X on diverging airway. Other aircraft heading 300 degree for second airway south of first. Both aircraft climbed out of approach control airspace. Air carrier Y overshot intercept radial and separation lost. OJT in progress. LOA constant or increasing separation not adhered to. I still get blame.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LTSS FROM ACR Y NONADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC FAILED TO JOIN AIRWAY. SYS ERROR. PLTDEV.
Narrative: ACR X ON DIVERGING AIRWAY. OTHER ACFT HDG 300 DEG FOR SECOND AIRWAY S OF FIRST. BOTH ACFT CLBED OUT OF APCH CTL AIRSPACE. ACR Y OVERSHOT INTERCEPT RADIAL AND SEPARATION LOST. OJT IN PROGRESS. LOA CONSTANT OR INCREASING SEPARATION NOT ADHERED TO. I STILL GET BLAME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.