Air carrier large transport overshot runway 24L centerline while flying visual approach at lax.

Attributes
ACN	188371
Time
Date	199108
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 5000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax tower : sea
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other landing : go around
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	descent other landing other
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4100 flight time type : 700
ASRS Report	188371
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 4000
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We flew into lax on the 24/25 profile descent and departed santa monica VOR on a 070 degree heading for a visual 24R. While heading outbound the runway was changed to visual 24L (no localizer). Approach called our base and we left 5000 ft for 3000 ft. As we turned in to the airport we lost the airport in the haze and flew through the extended centerline of 24L. When it became clear that we could not continue the captain turned to a runway heading and started a climb to missed approach altitude. The next attempt was normal and uneventful. After landing we found out our first approach caused loss of separation with a commuter light transport on 25R.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LGT OVERSHOT RWY 24L CENTERLINE WHILE FLYING VISUAL APCH AT LAX.

Narrative: WE FLEW INTO LAX ON THE 24/25 PROFILE DSCNT AND DEPARTED SANTA MONICA VOR ON A 070 DEG HDG FOR A VISUAL 24R. WHILE HDG OUTBOUND THE RWY WAS CHANGED TO VISUAL 24L (NO LOC). APCH CALLED OUR BASE AND WE LEFT 5000 FT FOR 3000 FT. AS WE TURNED IN TO THE ARPT WE LOST THE ARPT IN THE HAZE AND FLEW THROUGH THE EXTENDED CENTERLINE OF 24L. WHEN IT BECAME CLR THAT WE COULD NOT CONTINUE THE CAPT TURNED TO A RWY HDG AND STARTED A CLB TO MISSED APCH ALT. THE NEXT ATTEMPT WAS NORMAL AND UNEVENTFUL. AFTER LNDG WE FOUND OUT OUR FIRST APCH CAUSED LOSS OF SEPARATION WITH A COMMUTER LTT ON 25R.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.