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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : dal|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 1500|
agl bound upper : 1500
|Controlling Facilities||tower : dal|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Route In Use||approach : visual|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
pilot : cfi
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 250|
flight time total : 800
flight time type : 600
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : local|
|Qualification||controller : non radar|
|Anomaly||non adherence : clearance|
other spatial deviation
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
other flight crewa
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
I was directed to set up for a landing from the west on runway 13R with a right base. As I entered the base leg the conversation went like this: small aircraft change your directions, turn right for a landing on 18. Response: roger, turning right for 18. As I approached the numbers for 36, I questioned the controller if he wanted me to turn left downwind for 18. The conversation continued: I asked do you want me to turn downwind for 18 now. Tower: no what are you doing over there? I told you to turn right for 18. Small aircraft: I did turn right for 18 I'll turn back west. Tower: turn right immediately and enter a right downwind for 18. Small aircraft: roger, right downwind for 18. I believe this miscom could have been avoided if the controller would have said 'turn right for a right downwind for runway 18'. It is impossible to turn right for 18 from that position approaching 13R. The pilot should have asked for a better understanding of the directive instead of assuming. I would have been glad to discuss this on the telephone with the controller.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA SMA FAILED TO ALTER TFC PATTERN AS CLRNC FOR LNDG ON AN INTERSECTING RWY.
Narrative: I WAS DIRECTED TO SET UP FOR A LNDG FROM THE W ON RWY 13R WITH A R BASE. AS I ENTERED THE BASE LEG THE CONVERSATION WENT LIKE THIS: SMA CHANGE YOUR DIRECTIONS, TURN R FOR A LNDG ON 18. RESPONSE: ROGER, TURNING R FOR 18. AS I APCHED THE NUMBERS FOR 36, I QUESTIONED THE CTLR IF HE WANTED ME TO TURN L DOWNWIND FOR 18. THE CONVERSATION CONTINUED: I ASKED DO YOU WANT ME TO TURN DOWNWIND FOR 18 NOW. TWR: NO WHAT ARE YOU DOING OVER THERE? I TOLD YOU TO TURN R FOR 18. SMA: I DID TURN R FOR 18 I'LL TURN BACK W. TWR: TURN R IMMEDIATELY AND ENTER A R DOWNWIND FOR 18. SMA: ROGER, R DOWNWIND FOR 18. I BELIEVE THIS MISCOM COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE CTLR WOULD HAVE SAID 'TURN R FOR A R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 18'. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN R FOR 18 FROM THAT POS APCHING 13R. THE PLT SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIRECTIVE INSTEAD OF ASSUMING. I WOULD HAVE BEEN GLAD TO DISCUSS THIS ON THE TELEPHONE WITH THE CTLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.