GA flight instructor is confused by runway hold lines.

Attributes
ACN	172138
Time
Date	199103
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bgm
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4300 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	172138
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : ground
Qualification	controller : non radar
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
Airport	other physical facility

Narrative:

Displaced hold line for runway 16 at bgm is marked ILS, that would normally mean that there is another hold line for VFR. There is not. Tower seems to interpret this is the hold line for VFR also. If it is for VFR also, then the ILS sign should be changed to 'all aircraft hold here for runway 16.' as it is, a normal aircraft would cross the ILS hold line looking for the VFR hold line when they are apparently one in the same.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: GA FLT INSTRUCTOR IS CONFUSED BY RWY HOLD LINES.

Narrative: DISPLACED HOLD LINE FOR RWY 16 AT BGM IS MARKED ILS, THAT WOULD NORMALLY MEAN THAT THERE IS ANOTHER HOLD LINE FOR VFR. THERE IS NOT. TWR SEEMS TO INTERPRET THIS IS THE HOLD LINE FOR VFR ALSO. IF IT IS FOR VFR ALSO, THEN THE ILS SIGN SHOULD BE CHANGED TO 'ALL ACFT HOLD HERE FOR RWY 16.' AS IT IS, A NORMAL ACFT WOULD CROSS THE ILS HOLD LINE LOOKING FOR THE VFR HOLD LINE WHEN THEY ARE APPARENTLY ONE IN THE SAME.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.