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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 148510 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199006 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lal |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 26000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 130 |
| ASRS Report | 148510 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : unable none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight was in an large transport, dfw to orl, and on J58 to covia, then direct pie, J103 to orl. Before pie we were placed on a heading to expect direct lal. Later we were told to descend to FL240 and to be at FL240 by 55 NM west of lal. This I put in the FMC and was in the descent mode and on schedule. After we received ATIS from orl I was getting out my approach plate to runway 17 at orl reviewing it when my FMC went from VNAV speed to VNAV path, and I did not catch this until my copilot told me I was getting close to 55 DME, and since being on a vector the FMC was saying I was on path since we still had over 10 NM and 3000' or so to go. However, since we were on a heading and in VNAV path the aft was not on schedule descent, so I took over and missed the 55 DME by about 5 NM. Nothing was said by ZMA and we were handed off to another controller.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT DEVIATION. UNDERSHOT CROSSING RESTRICTION ON DESCENT.
Narrative: FLT WAS IN AN LGT, DFW TO ORL, AND ON J58 TO COVIA, THEN DIRECT PIE, J103 TO ORL. BEFORE PIE WE WERE PLACED ON A HDG TO EXPECT DIRECT LAL. LATER WE WERE TOLD TO DSND TO FL240 AND TO BE AT FL240 BY 55 NM W OF LAL. THIS I PUT IN THE FMC AND WAS IN THE DSNT MODE AND ON SCHEDULE. AFTER WE RECEIVED ATIS FROM ORL I WAS GETTING OUT MY APCH PLATE TO RWY 17 AT ORL REVIEWING IT WHEN MY FMC WENT FROM VNAV SPD TO VNAV PATH, AND I DID NOT CATCH THIS UNTIL MY COPLT TOLD ME I WAS GETTING CLOSE TO 55 DME, AND SINCE BEING ON A VECTOR THE FMC WAS SAYING I WAS ON PATH SINCE WE STILL HAD OVER 10 NM AND 3000' OR SO TO GO. HOWEVER, SINCE WE WERE ON A HDG AND IN VNAV PATH THE AFT WAS NOT ON SCHEDULE DSNT, SO I TOOK OVER AND MISSED THE 55 DME BY ABOUT 5 NM. NOTHING WAS SAID BY ZMA AND WE WERE HANDED OFF TO ANOTHER CTLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.