Flight crew of large transport taxied past the hold line for runways 4 at bos.

Attributes
ACN	122179
Time
Date	198909
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bos
State Reference	MA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : czul
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 1330
ASRS Report	122179
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 283
ASRS Report	121995
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Airport
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
Airport	other physical facility

Narrative:

Taxi out with instructions to use outer bravo S1 to runway 9 and to hold short of runway 4L. Dark asphalt taxiway with ramp to right of bravo. Anticipated hold line for 4L after crossing stopway for runway 9. Saw centerline lights of taxiway for turn on bravo toward 4L and started to follow as ground control advised we had passed beyond hold line for 4L. We stopped, and by looking behind (8 O'clock) we could see that we were still short of runway extension as threshold lights (4L) were in distance and runway not aligned. Never saw hold line. Suggest additional lights to mark stop line on either side of line, particularly if hold line pertains to both runways 9/27 and 4L/22R.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT CREW OF LGT TAXIED PAST THE HOLD LINE FOR RWYS 4 AT BOS.

Narrative: TAXI OUT WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO USE OUTER BRAVO S1 TO RWY 9 AND TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4L. DARK ASPHALT TXWY WITH RAMP TO RIGHT OF BRAVO. ANTICIPATED HOLD LINE FOR 4L AFTER XING STOPWAY FOR RWY 9. SAW CENTERLINE LIGHTS OF TXWY FOR TURN ON BRAVO TOWARD 4L AND STARTED TO FOLLOW AS GND CTL ADVISED WE HAD PASSED BEYOND HOLD LINE FOR 4L. WE STOPPED, AND BY LOOKING BEHIND (8 O'CLOCK) WE COULD SEE THAT WE WERE STILL SHORT OF RWY EXTENSION AS THRESHOLD LIGHTS (4L) WERE IN DISTANCE AND RWY NOT ALIGNED. NEVER SAW HOLD LINE. SUGGEST ADDITIONAL LIGHTS TO MARK STOP LINE ON EITHER SIDE OF LINE, PARTICULARLY IF HOLD LINE PERTAINS TO BOTH RWYS 9/27 AND 4L/22R.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.