Flight crew complaint about departure rpoc used at dfw for propeller type aircraft.

Attributes
ACN	93718
Time
Date	198809
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : dfw
State Reference	TX
Altitude	msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : dfw
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5900 flight time type : 370
ASRS Report	93718
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : departure
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

We departed dfw eastbound at 4000'. Departure control limits us propellers to 4000' all the time and `drives' us under the TCA limits. Against far's and very unsafe. Today they did it again and I decided to write it up. At 32 NM on D/fw 082 degree rad we got the clearance to 8000'. We were at 4000' for all that time!!! Beyond 7 NM on the 082 degree dfw we were below TCA limits. Very unsafe!!!

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT CREW COMPLAINT ABOUT DEP RPOC USED AT DFW FOR PROPELLER TYPE ACFT.

Narrative: WE DEPARTED DFW EBND AT 4000'. DEP CTL LIMITS US PROPS TO 4000' ALL THE TIME AND `DRIVES' US UNDER THE TCA LIMITS. AGAINST FAR'S AND VERY UNSAFE. TODAY THEY DID IT AGAIN AND I DECIDED TO WRITE IT UP. AT 32 NM ON D/FW 082 DEG RAD WE GOT THE CLRNC TO 8000'. WE WERE AT 4000' FOR ALL THAT TIME!!! BEYOND 7 NM ON THE 082 DEG DFW WE WERE BELOW TCA LIMITS. VERY UNSAFE!!!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.