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|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : ixd|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||ground other : taxi|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : private|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 10|
flight time total : 1150
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : ground|
|Qualification||controller : non radar|
|Anomaly||incursion : runway|
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
I was cleared to taxi from north t-hangars to runway 35. In order to get to runway 35, I had to cross the north end of runway 17-35. Since I was cleared to runway 35 west/O any restrictions, I crossed runway 17-35. The ATC's questioned why I crossed the runway. I explained that his clearance did not specify any 'hold short of 17' restriction. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter is also a controller. He stated olathe controller claims last sentence of 7110.65 section 7, paragraph 3-81b indicates 'this does not authorize to enter or cross assigned takeoff runway at any point.' according to reporter other pilots have had same problem and other controllers agreed with reporter's interpretation. Reporter also considers that he crossed runway 17, not 35.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RWY TRANSGRESSION UNAUTH RWY CROSSING.
Narrative: I WAS CLRED TO TAXI FROM N T-HANGARS TO RWY 35. IN ORDER TO GET TO RWY 35, I HAD TO CROSS THE N END OF RWY 17-35. SINCE I WAS CLRED TO RWY 35 W/O ANY RESTRICTIONS, I CROSSED RWY 17-35. THE ATC'S QUESTIONED WHY I CROSSED THE RWY. I EXPLAINED THAT HIS CLRNC DID NOT SPECIFY ANY 'HOLD SHORT OF 17' RESTRICTION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR IS ALSO A CTLR. HE STATED OLATHE CTLR CLAIMS LAST SENTENCE OF 7110.65 SECTION 7, PARAGRAPH 3-81B INDICATES 'THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE TO ENTER OR CROSS ASSIGNED TKOF RWY AT ANY POINT.' ACCORDING TO RPTR OTHER PLTS HAVE HAD SAME PROB AND OTHER CTLRS AGREED WITH RPTR'S INTERPRETATION. RPTR ALSO CONSIDERS THAT HE CROSSED RWY 17, NOT 35.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.