Close proximity air carrier large transport military fgts near sie VORTAC.

Attributes
ACN	91602
Time
Date	198807
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sie
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	msl bound lower : 14500 msl bound upper : 15000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zdc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other descent other
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Fighter
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 8800 flight time type : 550
ASRS Report	91602
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 1000
ASRS Report	91678
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 200 vertical : 400
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

July, 1988 flight from mia to phl had a near miss with 2 air force fgts. We were level 15000' 2-4 DME south of sie VORTAC. When we saw them 400' in front of us, crossing from right to left. The evasive maneuver was to remain level. We were slightly higher. We saw them do nothing to avoid us. Supplemental information from acn 91678. No evasive action was taken or needed.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLOSE PROX ACR LGT MIL FGTS NEAR SIE VORTAC.

Narrative: JULY, 1988 FLT FROM MIA TO PHL HAD A NEAR MISS WITH 2 AIR FORCE FGTS. WE WERE LEVEL 15000' 2-4 DME S OF SIE VORTAC. WHEN WE SAW THEM 400' IN FRONT OF US, XING FROM RIGHT TO LEFT. THE EVASIVE MANEUVER WAS TO REMAIN LEVEL. WE WERE SLIGHTLY HIGHER. WE SAW THEM DO NOTHING TO AVOID US. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 91678. NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN OR NEEDED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.