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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 898564 | 
| Time | |
| Date | 201007 | 
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 | 
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | MCO.Airport | 
| State Reference | FL | 
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC | 
| Light | Dusk | 
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 | 
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach | 
| Route In Use | Visual Approach | 
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain  | 
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) | 
| Person 2 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Flying  | 
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance  | 
Narrative:
Were cleared 'visual approach' to runway 18R mco. Told to cross mco VOR at 2;500 ft. Visually crossed the VOR and by reference to tuffee felt we were past mco VOR. Passing through 2;200 ft; orlando approach said we had started down early. Here we go again. If crossing altitude over (or abeam) mco VOR while on the ILS for 18R gives you a stable approach; then perhaps have a crossing restriction when 'visual' that is 300 ft higher needs to be revisited. It is most difficult to start and maintain a stable approach from where approach control apparently feels the visual crossing point for 2;500 ft would be.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An air carrier crew reported crossing the MCO VOR at 2;200 FT on glide slope instead of the 2;500 specified this crew believes the procedure needs to be revisited.
Narrative: Were cleared 'visual approach' to Runway 18R MCO. Told to cross MCO VOR at 2;500 FT. Visually crossed the VOR and by reference to TUFFEE felt we were past MCO VOR. Passing through 2;200 FT; Orlando Approach said we had started down early. Here we go again. If crossing altitude over (or abeam) MCO VOR while on the ILS for 18R gives you a stable approach; then perhaps have a crossing restriction when 'visual' that is 300 FT higher needs to be revisited. It is most difficult to start and maintain a stable approach from where Approach Control apparently feels the visual crossing point for 2;500 FT would be.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.