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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 87073 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198805 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sie |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 24300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zdc |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 18 |
| ASRS Report | 87073 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : unable |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was sbound at FL240 J209 sby. Foreign air carrier Y departed iad eastbound at FL230 requesting FL330. Air carrier Y kept requesting higher. I thought air carrier X was on J37, an airway that would take the aircraft behind air carrier Y, so I climbed air carrier Y to FL290. Right at that time I realized that air carrier X was not on an airway to pass behind air carrier Y. I then asked air carrier Y to expedite the climb. When I saw he still wasn't going to climb fast enough I turned both aircraft 40 degree, but still lost separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN ACR AND FOREIGN ACR. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X WAS SBOUND AT FL240 J209 SBY. FOREIGN ACR Y DEPARTED IAD EBOUND AT FL230 REQUESTING FL330. ACR Y KEPT REQUESTING HIGHER. I THOUGHT ACR X WAS ON J37, AN AIRWAY THAT WOULD TAKE THE ACFT BEHIND ACR Y, SO I CLIMBED ACR Y TO FL290. RIGHT AT THAT TIME I REALIZED THAT ACR X WAS NOT ON AN AIRWAY TO PASS BEHIND ACR Y. I THEN ASKED ACR Y TO EXPEDITE THE CLIMB. WHEN I SAW HE STILL WASN'T GOING TO CLIMB FAST ENOUGH I TURNED BOTH ACFT 40 DEG, BUT STILL LOST SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.