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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : pom|
airport : ont
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 6400|
msl bound upper : 6500
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : ont|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng|
|Flight Phase||climbout : intermediate altitude|
|Route In Use||departure sid : sid|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 26|
flight time total : 369
|Function||observation : passenger|
|Anomaly||conflict : nmac|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||flight crew : took evasive action|
|Miss Distance||horizontal : 0|
vertical : 100
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
At approximately xa:42 pm local time I was involved in a near miss with what the news reports say was an air carrier large transport Y. I was in level flight at 6500' over the pomona VOR. My flight was from san diego gillespie (see) to van nuys (vny). I followed the 310 radial of the pomona VOR and turned left to follow the 270 radial of the van nuys VOR. Approximately 1 minute after turning to 270 degree the near miss occurred. The large transport Y approached from below and to my left rear, approximately 7 O'clock low, in what appeared to be a climbing right turn. The large transport Y was first seen by the passenger in my right front seat who had turned to look back at our route of flight. On her warning I looked back to the left and saw the lights of the approaching large transport Y. I made an immediate, hard climbing left hand turn and saw the large transport Y lower his nose (I think he also turned right but I can't say for sure). I resumed level flight and returned to my heading at which time my watch said it was xa:43 pm. After the large transport Y reappeared on the ri side of my airplane I saw the tail section just long enough in the dark to tell that it was an large transport. Visibility at 6500' was at least 20 NM. Ontario ATIS reported 2.5 at the time of the incident and el monte reported 3 miles. Primary cause of this incident was failure of large transport Y to maintain visual separation. My feeling is that large transport Y was probably using instrument procedures in visual conditions. Secondary cause is failure of the FAA to create IFR corridors through VFR airspace to allow large instrument aircraft to transit safely through VFR airspace while in climb or descent. Supplemental information from acn 82715. After takeoff from ont on departure over pomona VOR between 6 and 7000' (on pom #1 departure) the aircraft we initially came in conflict with was northeast of us (1 to 2 O'clock) after which he turned into us and came toward us in the (1-TO-2 O'clock) relative position. At that time I started evasive action by diving our aircraft nose, passing under the conflicting aircraft with an estimated vertical sep of 100', department control informed us that the conflicting traffic had no mode 'C'. ATC had also informed us of two targets in the immediate vicinity. We believe that the other small aircraft was a single engine high wing, maybe a crossing altitude restriction over pom VOR or put a TCA around ont. We made also the same report to company on our form. Supplemental information from acn 82711: it appears to me that in order to preclude the above incident from occurring again two things should be done to enhance the safety of the departure out of ont. First the departure corridor on the SID for turbojet aircraft needs to be protected in some way, either by a TCA or encoding transponders on all aircraft operating within that airspace. Second mandatory crossing altitude for VFR aircraft crossing the departure corridor.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA AND LGT HAD NMAC IN VICINITY OF POM VORTAC, LGT ON SID AND SMA VFR NON MODE C PROCEEDING TO VNY.
Narrative: AT APPROX XA:42 PM LOCAL TIME I WAS INVOLVED IN A NEAR MISS WITH WHAT THE NEWS RPTS SAY WAS AN ACR LGT Y. I WAS IN LEVEL FLT AT 6500' OVER THE POMONA VOR. MY FLT WAS FROM SAN DIEGO GILLESPIE (SEE) TO VAN NUYS (VNY). I FOLLOWED THE 310 RADIAL OF THE POMONA VOR AND TURNED LEFT TO FOLLOW THE 270 RADIAL OF THE VAN NUYS VOR. APPROX 1 MINUTE AFTER TURNING TO 270 DEG THE NEAR MISS OCCURRED. THE LGT Y APCHED FROM BELOW AND TO MY L REAR, APPROX 7 O'CLOCK LOW, IN WHAT APPEARED TO BE A CLIMBING RIGHT TURN. THE LGT Y WAS FIRST SEEN BY THE PAX IN MY RIGHT FRONT SEAT WHO HAD TURNED TO LOOK BACK AT OUR ROUTE OF FLT. ON HER WARNING I LOOKED BACK TO THE L AND SAW THE LIGHTS OF THE APCHING LGT Y. I MADE AN IMMEDIATE, HARD CLBING L HAND TURN AND SAW THE LGT Y LOWER HIS NOSE (I THINK HE ALSO TURNED R BUT I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE). I RESUMED LEVEL FLT AND RETURNED TO MY HDG AT WHICH TIME MY WATCH SAID IT WAS XA:43 PM. AFTER THE LGT Y REAPPEARED ON THE RI SIDE OF MY AIRPLANE I SAW THE TAIL SECTION JUST LONG ENOUGH IN THE DARK TO TELL THAT IT WAS AN LGT. VISIBILITY AT 6500' WAS AT LEAST 20 NM. ONTARIO ATIS REPORTED 2.5 AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT AND EL MONTE REPORTED 3 MILES. PRIMARY CAUSE OF THIS INCIDENT WAS FAILURE OF LGT Y TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. MY FEELING IS THAT LGT Y WAS PROBABLY USING INSTRUMENT PROCS IN VISUAL CONDITIONS. SECONDARY CAUSE IS FAILURE OF THE FAA TO CREATE IFR CORRIDORS THROUGH VFR AIRSPACE TO ALLOW LARGE INSTRUMENT ACFT TO TRANSIT SAFELY THROUGH VFR AIRSPACE WHILE IN CLIMB OR DSCNT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 82715. AFTER TKOF FROM ONT ON DEP OVER POMONA VOR BETWEEN 6 AND 7000' (ON POM #1 DEP) THE ACFT WE INITIALLY CAME IN CONFLICT WITH WAS NE OF US (1 TO 2 O'CLOCK) AFTER WHICH HE TURNED INTO US AND CAME TOWARD US IN THE (1-TO-2 O'CLOCK) RELATIVE POSITION. AT THAT TIME I STARTED EVASIVE ACTION BY DIVING OUR ACFT NOSE, PASSING UNDER THE CONFLICTING ACFT WITH AN ESTIMATED VERTICAL SEP OF 100', DEPT CTL INFORMED US THAT THE CONFLICTING TFC HAD NO MODE 'C'. ATC HAD ALSO INFORMED US OF TWO TARGETS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY. WE BELIEVE THAT THE OTHER SMA WAS A SINGLE ENG HIGH WING, MAYBE A XING ALT RESTRICTION OVER POM VOR OR PUT A TCA AROUND ONT. WE MADE ALSO THE SAME RPT TO COMPANY ON OUR FORM. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 82711: IT APPEARS TO ME THAT IN ORDER TO PRECLUDE THE ABOVE INCIDENT FROM OCCURRING AGAIN TWO THINGS SHOULD BE DONE TO ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF THE DEP OUT OF ONT. FIRST THE DEP CORRIDOR ON THE SID FOR TURBOJET ACFT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED IN SOME WAY, EITHER BY A TCA OR ENCODING TRANSPONDERS ON ALL ACFT OPERATING WITHIN THAT AIRSPACE. SECOND MANDATORY XING ALT FOR VFR ACFT XING THE DEP CORRIDOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.