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A B757 on civet arrival to lax gets a last min runway change which puts the first officer heads down at a critical time in the congested airspace approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 714926 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200610 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sct.tracon |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 11000 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : den.tower |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : civit 4 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 714926 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On approach to runway 25R at lax; captain was PF. We were given 'descend via civet 4 arrival.' we had briefed civet runway 25R and put the civet runway 24R arrival into the route 2 page. I thought we were cleared to descend via the civet runway 25R from just outside gramm. At 11000 ft we were handed off and cleared for the approach to runway 24R. This forced me heads down to reprogram the box; in some of the most congested airspace in the country. Los angeles approach needs to get the arrival to the air crews above FL200 to avoid this situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 ON CIVET ARR TO LAX GETS A LAST MIN RWY CHANGE WHICH PUTS THE FO HEADS DOWN AT A CRITICAL TIME IN THE CONGESTED AIRSPACE APCH.
Narrative: ON APCH TO RWY 25R AT LAX; CAPT WAS PF. WE WERE GIVEN 'DSND VIA CIVET 4 ARR.' WE HAD BRIEFED CIVET RWY 25R AND PUT THE CIVET RWY 24R ARR INTO THE RTE 2 PAGE. I THOUGHT WE WERE CLRED TO DSND VIA THE CIVET RWY 25R FROM JUST OUTSIDE GRAMM. AT 11000 FT WE WERE HANDED OFF AND CLRED FOR THE APCH TO RWY 24R. THIS FORCED ME HEADS DOWN TO REPROGRAM THE BOX; IN SOME OF THE MOST CONGESTED AIRSPACE IN THE COUNTRY. LOS ANGELES APCH NEEDS TO GET THE ARR TO THE AIR CREWS ABOVE FL200 TO AVOID THIS SITUATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.