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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 699385 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200606 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dtw.airport |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : taxi ground : position and hold |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dtw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 2600 |
| ASRS Report | 699385 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5960 flight time type : 1180 |
| ASRS Report | 699729 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllerb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were in line for departure at dtw on taxiway Y abeam intersection Y16; third in line behind aircraft Y. Tower instructed us to taxi into position and hold 'inside aircraft Y.' we hesitated; and tower adamantly instructed us to taxi into position and hold. Aircraft Y was at this time turning onto the runway. We proceeded to turn onto the runway at Y16 and before we crossed the hold short line; tower instructed us to stop. He then instructed aircraft Y to cancel their takeoff clearance (we never heard him clear aircraft Y for takeoff) and issued us instructions to take off at that intersection.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 FLT CREW HAS A RWY INCURSION AT DTW.
Narrative: WE WERE IN LINE FOR DEP AT DTW ON TXWY Y ABEAM INTXN Y16; THIRD IN LINE BEHIND ACFT Y. TWR INSTRUCTED US TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD 'INSIDE ACFT Y.' WE HESITATED; AND TWR ADAMANTLY INSTRUCTED US TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD. ACFT Y WAS AT THIS TIME TURNING ONTO THE RWY. WE PROCEEDED TO TURN ONTO THE RWY AT Y16 AND BEFORE WE CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE; TWR INSTRUCTED US TO STOP. HE THEN INSTRUCTED ACFT Y TO CANCEL THEIR TKOF CLRNC (WE NEVER HEARD HIM CLR ACFT Y FOR TKOF) AND ISSUED US INSTRUCTIONS TO TAKE OFF AT THAT INTXN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.