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|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : lax.airport|
|Altitude||msl single value : 3000|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||A319|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 121|
|Flight Phase||climbout : takeoff|
|Route In Use||departure sid : lax.5|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 120|
flight time type : 2000
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 60|
flight time type : 3200
|Anomaly||non adherence : clearance|
non adherence : published procedure
other spatial deviation
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
controller : issued advisory
|Problem Areas||Flight Crew Human Performance|
Chart Or Publication
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
The departure procedure for runway 25L ws applied to runway 24L from the LAXX5.lax departure. It was pure luck that there was not a departure in progress from the south complex at the time. ATC advised 'no harm; no foul.' the process began with the set up of the departure. The laxx.5 is not in the database. So I built it with a radio backup. During this period; the station began boarding the flight. It was not clear if the aircraft security check was complied with. The boarding was stopped until the paperwork arrived. Add the LAXX5.lax departure to the database. All regularly flown stars and sids should be in the database regardless of the seeming simplicity supplemental information from acn 695818: we took off on runway 24L; and as we were climbing on heading 250 degrees; the pilot monitoring said we're crossing santa monica 160 degree radial; and when I didn't respond called for a left turn to 220 degrees. I didn't realize that he was thinking of the runway 25 departure. I thought I had missed an ATC call that the pilot monitoring had heard; so began the turn as directed. I should have queried the pilot monitoring when he told me to turn; but since I'm on IOE and new to the seat; I assumed that I had missed an assigned heading.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF A319 FOLLOW LAX SID INTENDED FOR RWY 25 DEPS WHEN THEY WERE ACTUALLY DEPARTING RWY 24L. HDG DEV RESULTS.
Narrative: THE DEP PROC FOR RWY 25L WS APPLIED TO RWY 24L FROM THE LAXX5.LAX DEP. IT WAS PURE LUCK THAT THERE WAS NOT A DEP IN PROGRESS FROM THE S COMPLEX AT THE TIME. ATC ADVISED 'NO HARM; NO FOUL.' THE PROCESS BEGAN WITH THE SET UP OF THE DEP. THE LAXX.5 IS NOT IN THE DATABASE. SO I BUILT IT WITH A RADIO BACKUP. DURING THIS PERIOD; THE STATION BEGAN BOARDING THE FLT. IT WAS NOT CLR IF THE ACFT SECURITY CHK WAS COMPLIED WITH. THE BOARDING WAS STOPPED UNTIL THE PAPERWORK ARRIVED. ADD THE LAXX5.LAX DEP TO THE DATABASE. ALL REGULARLY FLOWN STARS AND SIDS SHOULD BE IN THE DATABASE REGARDLESS OF THE SEEMING SIMPLICITY SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 695818: WE TOOK OFF ON RWY 24L; AND AS WE WERE CLBING ON HDG 250 DEGS; THE PLT MONITORING SAID WE'RE XING SANTA MONICA 160 DEG RADIAL; AND WHEN I DIDN'T RESPOND CALLED FOR A L TURN TO 220 DEGS. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT HE WAS THINKING OF THE RWY 25 DEP. I THOUGHT I HAD MISSED AN ATC CALL THAT THE PLT MONITORING HAD HEARD; SO BEGAN THE TURN AS DIRECTED. I SHOULD HAVE QUERIED THE PLT MONITORING WHEN HE TOLD ME TO TURN; BUT SINCE I'M ON IOE AND NEW TO THE SEAT; I ASSUMED THAT I HAD MISSED AN ASSIGNED HDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.