B757 flight crew while departure on the jfk 9 canarsie transition overshoots the assigned altitude; ...

Attributes
ACN	686341
Time
Date	200602
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk.airport
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other vortac
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure sid : jfk9
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5010 flight time type : 540
ASRS Report	686341
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 1500
ASRS Report	686337
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : returned to original clearance
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Departing jfk on the jfk 9 canarsie climb. PF was first officer. Took off; turned left to the cri VOR. On check-in with departure; leveloff altitude was changed from 5000 ft to 4000 ft. The crew cleaned up the aircraft on schedule. The PF called for speed intervene of 250 KTS. PNF selected a heading to intercept the cri 176 degree radial prior to reaching the cri VOR. PF began a left turn while leveling at 4000 ft. The aircraft crossed the cri VOR in the turn. While rolling out on a heading to intercept the 176 degree radial; departure called and asked which departure we were doing. The PNF responded that we were on the jfk 9 canarsie. Departure responded with 'not even close!' the crew checked the 20-3A page; the HSI; and VOR in order to determine what was wrong. The PNF told departure that we were going out the 176 degree radial and to confirm that was correct for the canarsie climb. Departure responded to the effect that we were supposed to 'track it outbound.' while this was going on; the PF ballooned to approximately 4300 ft. When the PF saw the error; he descended back towards 4000 ft. Departure then called and said that 'you busted 4000 ft. Climb to 5000 ft' and gave us a left turn to 090 degrees. The remainder of the departure/flight was unremarkable. Supplemental information from acn 686337: the problem for us could have been avoided if we had briefed and programmed the LNAV with runway 31L cri 176 degree radial/20 (pilot constructed) and flown this after takeoff. This would have anticipated the turn for us and kept us on track exactly.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B757 FLT CREW WHILE DEP ON THE JFK 9 CANARSIE TRANSITION OVERSHOOTS THE ASSIGNED ALT; AND DEVIATES FROM THE PUBLISHED OUTBOUND RADIAL. ATC QUERIES THE FLT CREW AND GIVES AN ALERT.

Narrative: DEPARTING JFK ON THE JFK 9 CANARSIE CLB. PF WAS FO. TOOK OFF; TURNED L TO THE CRI VOR. ON CHK-IN WITH DEP; LEVELOFF ALT WAS CHANGED FROM 5000 FT TO 4000 FT. THE CREW CLEANED UP THE ACFT ON SCHEDULE. THE PF CALLED FOR SPD INTERVENE OF 250 KTS. PNF SELECTED A HDG TO INTERCEPT THE CRI 176 DEG RADIAL PRIOR TO REACHING THE CRI VOR. PF BEGAN A L TURN WHILE LEVELING AT 4000 FT. THE ACFT CROSSED THE CRI VOR IN THE TURN. WHILE ROLLING OUT ON A HDG TO INTERCEPT THE 176 DEG RADIAL; DEP CALLED AND ASKED WHICH DEP WE WERE DOING. THE PNF RESPONDED THAT WE WERE ON THE JFK 9 CANARSIE. DEP RESPONDED WITH 'NOT EVEN CLOSE!' THE CREW CHKED THE 20-3A PAGE; THE HSI; AND VOR IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT WAS WRONG. THE PNF TOLD DEP THAT WE WERE GOING OUT THE 176 DEG RADIAL AND TO CONFIRM THAT WAS CORRECT FOR THE CANARSIE CLB. DEP RESPONDED TO THE EFFECT THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO 'TRACK IT OUTBOUND.' WHILE THIS WAS GOING ON; THE PF BALLOONED TO APPROX 4300 FT. WHEN THE PF SAW THE ERROR; HE DSNDED BACK TOWARDS 4000 FT. DEP THEN CALLED AND SAID THAT 'YOU BUSTED 4000 FT. CLB TO 5000 FT' AND GAVE US A L TURN TO 090 DEGS. THE REMAINDER OF THE DEP/FLT WAS UNREMARKABLE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 686337: THE PROB FOR US COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF WE HAD BRIEFED AND PROGRAMMED THE LNAV WITH RWY 31L CRI 176 DEG RADIAL/20 (PLT CONSTRUCTED) AND FLOWN THIS AFTER TKOF. THIS WOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED THE TURN FOR US AND KEPT US ON TRACK EXACTLY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

B757 flight crew while departure on the jfk 9 canarsie transition overshoots the assigned altitude; and deviates from the published outbound radial. ATC queries the flight crew and gives an alert.