A DA2000 pilot reports after crossing det runway 33 hold short line; local controller tells him of his transgression but also says that event frequently occurs.

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Attributes
ACN	673983
Time
Date	200510
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : det.airport
State Reference	MI
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Falcon 2000
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : holding
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	673983
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Environmental Factor Chart Or Publication Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Aircraft
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We asked for taxi from FBO at det. My first officer was flying this ferry leg. We were given taxi to runway 33. We taxied and held short of the apparent runway but tower informed us that we were over the hold short line. We didn't have room to turn so the tower gave us position and hold. We departed shortly. Before we departed; I apologized to the tower and I was told it happens frequently. If this is the case why isn't something done about the markings to make the hold short position more visible?

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A DA2000 PLT RPTS AFTER XING DET RWY 33 HOLD SHORT LINE; LCL CTLR TELLS HIM OF HIS TRANSGRESSION BUT ALSO SAYS THAT EVENT FREQUENTLY OCCURS.

Narrative: WE ASKED FOR TAXI FROM FBO AT DET. MY FO WAS FLYING THIS FERRY LEG. WE WERE GIVEN TAXI TO RWY 33. WE TAXIED AND HELD SHORT OF THE APPARENT RWY BUT TWR INFORMED US THAT WE WERE OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE. WE DIDN'T HAVE ROOM TO TURN SO THE TWR GAVE US POS AND HOLD. WE DEPARTED SHORTLY. BEFORE WE DEPARTED; I APOLOGIZED TO THE TWR AND I WAS TOLD IT HAPPENS FREQUENTLY. IF THIS IS THE CASE WHY ISN'T SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THE MARKINGS TO MAKE THE HOLD SHORT POS MORE VISIBLE?

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.