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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 649419 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200503 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : bunts |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : holding |
| Route In Use | arrival star : bunts |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 649419 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1300 |
| ASRS Report | 649420 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : exit non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Was initially given holding instructions for lrp. Approaching lrp; was given revised holding instructions for bunts. The clearance was hold at bunts at 13000 ft; 10 mi legs; efc of XA30. I entered all of the information in the FMC and watched as the aircraft entered the depicted holding pattern as expected. The controller then called and asked if we were making a right turn. We replied yes; and he said complete one hold using right turns but then make left turns as depicted for bunts. I then realized that I had not checked a chart to see if bunts had a depicted holding pattern. I had entered right in the FMC for a standard holding pattern. We had been slightly rushed to write down and enter a revised clearance but this is really no excuse for the mistake. During this time I was consulting the fom for an mu chart for the ATIS reported braking action of .18 which had concerned me for the landing at phl. Supplemental information from acn 649420: this in conjunction with the controller not telling us to hold as published created the mistake. Also; there was some cockpit confusion due to the runway condition in phl.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A300 CREW GIVEN HOLDING AT BUNTS UPON PHL ARR; FAILED TO SET L-HAND HOLDING IN THE FMC HOLD PAGE.
Narrative: WAS INITIALLY GIVEN HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS FOR LRP. APCHING LRP; WAS GIVEN REVISED HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS FOR BUNTS. THE CLRNC WAS HOLD AT BUNTS AT 13000 FT; 10 MI LEGS; EFC OF XA30. I ENTERED ALL OF THE INFO IN THE FMC AND WATCHED AS THE ACFT ENTERED THE DEPICTED HOLDING PATTERN AS EXPECTED. THE CTLR THEN CALLED AND ASKED IF WE WERE MAKING A R TURN. WE REPLIED YES; AND HE SAID COMPLETE ONE HOLD USING R TURNS BUT THEN MAKE L TURNS AS DEPICTED FOR BUNTS. I THEN REALIZED THAT I HAD NOT CHKED A CHART TO SEE IF BUNTS HAD A DEPICTED HOLDING PATTERN. I HAD ENTERED R IN THE FMC FOR A STANDARD HOLDING PATTERN. WE HAD BEEN SLIGHTLY RUSHED TO WRITE DOWN AND ENTER A REVISED CLRNC BUT THIS IS REALLY NO EXCUSE FOR THE MISTAKE. DURING THIS TIME I WAS CONSULTING THE FOM FOR AN MU CHART FOR THE ATIS RPTED BRAKING ACTION OF .18 WHICH HAD CONCERNED ME FOR THE LNDG AT PHL. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 649420: THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CTLR NOT TELLING US TO HOLD AS PUBLISHED CREATED THE MISTAKE. ALSO; THERE WAS SOME COCKPIT CONFUSION DUE TO THE RWY CONDITION IN PHL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.