<< >> NASA ASRS Report 633800, October 2004

B737 first officer expressed concern during departure from cvg when ATC taxied 2 aircraft onto the runway for takeoff.

Attributes
ACN	633800
Time
Date	200410
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cvg.airport
State Reference	KY
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : sna.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-800
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : position and hold
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : cvg.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : takeoff roll ground : position and hold
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1200
ASRS Report	633800
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

While holding short of runway 18L at cvg we were instructed to taxi into position and hold runway 18L. I acknowledged then busied myself with the before takeoff checklist. When I looked up there was an rj in front of us on the runway. The rj was cleared for takeoff and we were instructed to clear the runway. I am quite sure I heard the instruction to taxi into position and hold. The captain inquired as to whether the tower controller had placed 2 aircraft on the runway simultaneously. The answer was a sheepish 'I did.' I am hoping that this was not recorded as a runway incursion. When I get back to the left seat I intend on having every checklist item completed (to the final item) before taking the runway.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B737 FO EXPRESSED CONCERN DURING DEP FROM CVG WHEN ATC TAXIED 2 ACFT ONTO THE RWY FOR TKOF.

Narrative: WHILE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 18L AT CVG WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD RWY 18L. I ACKNOWLEDGED THEN BUSIED MYSELF WITH THE BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST. WHEN I LOOKED UP THERE WAS AN RJ IN FRONT OF US ON THE RWY. THE RJ WAS CLRED FOR TKOF AND WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CLR THE RWY. I AM QUITE SURE I HEARD THE INSTRUCTION TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD. THE CAPT INQUIRED AS TO WHETHER THE TWR CTLR HAD PLACED 2 ACFT ON THE RWY SIMULTANEOUSLY. THE ANSWER WAS A SHEEPISH 'I DID.' I AM HOPING THAT THIS WAS NOT RECORDED AS A RWY INCURSION. WHEN I GET BACK TO THE L SEAT I INTEND ON HAVING EVERY CHKLIST ITEM COMPLETED (TO THE FINAL ITEM) BEFORE TAKING THE RWY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.