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The first officer of a cargo aircraft expressed concern about an overweight landing that was made at elp as the result of a stick shaker upon rotation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 481660 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200008 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : elp.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : rotation |
| Route In Use | departure sid : n/s |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2300 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 481660 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : landed in emergency condition |
| Consequence | other other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
The captain I was flying with took off from el paso to lax. As he rotated for takeoff, we experienced a stick shaker and returned for an immediate landing, which resulted in the captain exceeding the tip tank maximum landing weight by 160 pounds and the maximum landing weight by 400 pounds. The captain did not discuss that we made an overweight landing, and I did not think of it. I knew maintenance did an inspection and I assumed that it was good to go.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE FO OF A CARGO ACFT EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT AN OVERWT LNDG THAT WAS MADE AT ELP AS THE RESULT OF A STICK SHAKER UPON ROTATION.
Narrative: THE CAPT I WAS FLYING WITH TOOK OFF FROM EL PASO TO LAX. AS HE ROTATED FOR TKOF, WE EXPERIENCED A STICK SHAKER AND RETURNED FOR AN IMMEDIATE LNDG, WHICH RESULTED IN THE CAPT EXCEEDING THE TIP TANK MAX LNDG WT BY 160 LBS AND THE MAX LNDG WT BY 400 LBS. THE CAPT DID NOT DISCUSS THAT WE MADE AN OVERWT LNDG, AND I DID NOT THINK OF IT. I KNEW MAINT DID AN INSPECTION AND I ASSUMED THAT IT WAS GOOD TO GO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.